we were talking on AIM while i was at work. I wanted to do something with her that night, but I couldn't think of anything close to where we live that was exciting besides going to the movie theatre. We live about 30 minutes away from anything fun. Keep in mind while reading that "Northton" is the name of a town near us. Here's what was said according to my memory:



neg, fluff, fluff, blah, etc,.. then

me: wat do u want to do tonight
her: i told my friends i would go to a softball game with them
me: let me know when you decide to ditch them and want to have fun
her: whatever
me: i'm thinking northton
her: what would i do in northton?
me: what wouldn't you do in northon?! it's like a mini new york city!
her: but what would we do there?
me: the possibilities are endless
her: what do you wanna do?
me: i hope your friends arent mad that you arent going with them
her: what is going on there



this is the part where i wanted to ask her to see a movie, but i just froze up and didnt respond for about 10 mins.

i think i did well at getting her really interested. i used statements instead of questions, i was mysterious, etc,.. i couldnt think of a way to tell her what i wanted to do without making it seem boring (as movie theatres often are). i'm sure she is still wondering what i wanted to do with her, but i kept her guessing for too long and she moved on.




i'm thinking that when something like this happens again i could say something like this:

me: the theatre!
her: what movie do u want to see
me: we'll figure it out when we get there


i don't want to name a specific movie because there is a chance that she

a.) has seen it
b.) doesn't want to see it
c.) may weigh her options in her head differently:
example: "friends or specific movie" instead of "friends or fun guy"



any suggestions or tips would be appreciated

Suggestion one: The game is played in the field, not on a computer. I forbid you the use of any instant message confabulation in your game for the rest of forever. It is impersonal, indirect, and freakishly easy to misinterpret. If you must communicate over any sort of distance, you may use your telephone, and then only to facilitate face-to-face interaction.

Suggestion two: Never, ever, EVER take a woman you are interested in to the movies. Movies are horrible nasty places of utter silence and stillness, where interruption of any sort is unappreciated. They are places of etiquette, and you are not a man of etiquette; you are the exception to the rules.

Suggestion three: Tell her to come with you to whatever it is you are doing. Don't ask. Tell her to come with you, and she will listen to you. Why? Because you have taken control. If she doesn't come with you, neg her. Punish her by talking to someone else and ignoring her. Make her know that you will not be accepting such silly behavior in the future through your body language and your speech. When you want to go out with her, it is her priviledge to accompany you. It is a gift you bestow upon her, because YOU are the prize.

You: I'm going out for coffee. Come with me.
Her: I can't, I've got suchandsuchtodo.
You: Never mind. You're not allowed to have coffee with me.
Her: I just told you I can't.
You: I know you can't. I won't let you. I'm calling Kathy. SHE's my favorite now.

I like my approach to. I tell a girl I am gonna go do something making a hint that she should come. I even do it with the girl I am currently dating and it works.

ME:What are you doing toimorrow?
HER:Well I am gonna just sit around and do nothing probley.
ME: I am going to the Space and Science Center Saturday. I am a huge geek and I love it. Its going to be so much fun....

(VACUUM)

Her: Really? Can I come.. its sounds fun.
ME:Well I was gonna go by myself... but if you must tag along... I guess you can.

But then again that may only work if you use the correct tone, It always tends to work for me because when I tell a girl I am going to go do something I make it sound like it will be the wickest Bill and Ted adventure in the world. So then they get excited. I have even done that on a few other dates when bringing up going to go shopping at the mall.

thx 4 tips

Monkey and Shaft- great approaches. I'll be sure to implement them both. To Monkey, I have used part of your approach before but did not go as far as she's my favorite now- that's classic.

To Shaft, is part of the trick there behind the fact that she might think you're a geek as soon as she hears science center, then you confirm it, and make it seem awesome? Like it disarms her?
~Irony

Never, EVER underestimate the power of your own nerdish qualities to help you pick up women. If game stops working, throw a Monty Python quote or two her way and see if it gets any results. ^_^

Geek is the new black. I actually have the word "GEEK" tattooed to the back of my neck. Geek is, ironically, cool. But you do have to be excited about it. Not, "Want me to tell you about my D&D character" excited, but "YAY! SCIENCE CENTER!" excited.

Exactly. Everyone is a geek deep down. You have to make it feel good for them to admit it though. If there are like Cool the space and science center... but thats so geekish.... you just reply back with Hell ya... its gonna be amazing. A tip that works with everything. Just make everything you do sound out of this world. Like there will be no better time then spending it with you..... but on the flip side you have to come through and make them laugh and actually have a good time. But if you have a wicked personality you should have a hard time. I am sure you have a awesome personality.


Heres a little side note.... if you have problems with talking with girls... just act like they are one of the guys.... bust there balls..... have a few jokes back and forth... but you have to remember they are girls and all girls want to find THAT man.... the one that makes them feel good

Okay here we go. Hope this works.

Monkey's rule must rule absolutely supreme.
Never ever ever use SMS or CHATS in your game unless it is really the only and I mean only way to which you can communicate to a woman. Games played through text only communications are absolutely the worst place to play. Just trust me and Monkey. As for the telephone routine, don't talk for an hour or two, limit it. That's for relationships.

Okay off to part 2.
You have to be the prize.
Here's the pattern when asking women out.

I'm gonna go to < >, you can tag along if you want OR
I'm gonna go to < >, it'd be nice if you could tag along but if you're busy, then that's ayt.

QUOTES

Well, that's true. I know you've learned your lesson there.
Okay, bad idea and weak alpha frame.
Theathers, as explained by Monkey, are bad.
And you can reply with something like, "I'll take care of that, just show up and we'll have some fun."

You're getting better, man. Just remember this, from my experience and from Monkey's advice.

The game's out there, not in your PC.

Goodluck, Rayovac.

Sky

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