Hey Chief, one quick thing I've been pondering on.

I enjoy maintaining rapport in day game when n closing, but things like making introductions and generally extracting information I find is risky, as it may break the rapport that I've built.

How do I go about learning these specific details (I would like these minor details, as, if she realises that neither of you know each others first name it may break rapport again) without breaking rapport?

I need some help here.

There this one girl who is gourgous. She's in a class of mine (In college), and she sits a seat away. We usually look at each other and smile a few times during a class, which made me think she might be feeling me. I've made her laugh, and she's said things like, "We should do ____ together", etc. I'm doing well in the course, so me and her friend are going to study together this week.

Anyway, so I was texting her today, and she's playing around telling me how she's going to beat me up, and I tell her that I'm scared that a 5'4'' girl would beat me up, then she accuses me of looking at her in class and says I'm stalking her (Jokingly). I then said that she shouldn't have been pretty if she didn't want people looking back at her, and then said that she shouldn't act like she doesn't look back. She then says that she doesn't look back so I don't have to worry. This fucked me up a bit, and I said that I was glad since I'm not a piece of meat and do have feelings (I tried to be cocky/funny, but it seemed to fail since she didn't respond).

I see her in a couple days for our study group, and I'm a little lost as what to do now... And what to do considering a third person will be there. I decided to finally put my ego aside and ask some PUA's for help. I thought we were flirting a bit until her last text, and then once she didn't respond I knew I fucked up.

Any advice is appreciated.

After you've built rapport, intentionally break it. This will actually build some sort of attraction, kinda like the concept of negging in MM. Once you intentionally break rapport, the pressure of keeping rapport is lessened on both sides, so ultimately you build more comfort. And, by the NLP concept of fractionation, building rapport back up again will be easier and better after you've broken it.

Adam Lyons actually goes deep into this whole rapport breaking thing.

Don't forget to always keep the dynamic between you and the girl DYNAMIC.

That's where shit went wrong.

The fact that she was able to break your frame meant that you failed her shit test and now she feels less attracted to you because of it.
Just keep flirting with her, and don't let anything affect your mindset of "we both like each other and really want to have hot passionate sex right here and right now."

Please keep these sort of questions in the "Newbie Questions" board.

Hey Chief, is it ever right to give her your phone number instead of to get hers?

I want to be an instructor for mystery Or maybe for a upcoming MPUA like yourself? How did you get where you are now? You can post the answer on here or PM. How did you learn the info that you know?

I want to make a living doing something I love and like the joker said " If your good at something, Never do it for Free." How can I make this a realaity. I would be willing to do anything to at least get me started.

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If you really don't care about whether or not you two will meet up later, yes. Plenty of PUAs get tired of putting in the effort and they just give out their number to girls. Less things happen that way, but at least it lets them relax.
First, you gotta get good. A virgin should not be considering this while he is a virgin. Not to sound harsh, but I know you in real life so this is something you need to hear.

It's rumored that Mehow started teaching pickup while he was still a virgin, and for the longest time he was the laughingstock of the seduction community because of that. He's more successful now as an instructor because a lot of newbies today don't know this.

Don't distract yourself with other goals other than just getting good at this stuff first.

Thanks and your definitely right. I have some soul searching to do.

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Hey Chief!

So I found out that oneitis girl was a lesbian... that explains why the fuck I was getting so much resistance. I was doing my current A-game and everything (that's not saying it's much, but I made a great deal of effort). What a bad start for becoming a PUA!

Long story short (and then to my questions), I'm not a desperate person so I just gave up after she stayed mad at me for no apparent reason. My friend was curious--wondering why I fucked up so badly when he didn't see anything wrong with my approaching either, so he looked her up on Facebook today. She had pictures of her kissing other girls and what not--no boys at all in her pictures; now it makes perfect sense...

But new questions started to arise... Should I use this experience to revise my approach? I mean, I don't think I did anything wrong... it's not like I can make her turn to the "dark-side" and love cock... I'm not sure what to do with this "fuck-up" to be honest.

Is "stalking" women on Facebook and other social networking sites worthwhile to do a background check? I tend to give people some level of privacy (I'm a private person; that's why), but after this event, I'm not sure what to do anymore... I definitely don't want this to happen again, and waste my time.

And for a bonus bogus question, is it even possible to convert her? I'm just curious because she's YOUNG and I don't take her as a legit lesbian. Not that I'm going to pursue her anymore, but if I find myself in a similar situation I want the challenge of turning the tables around when I get better at this stuff!

You CAN turn her to the cock-side. What is your approach? If there isn't too much sexualization involved in it, yes, you may want to revise it.
No.
Yes. A man's sexuality is categorical, but a woman's sexuality is based on an indefinite continuum.

Check this out: women-have-no-objective-sexual-orientation-vt54575.html

Hello Chief!
I have tried to search stuff related to winging but its pretty poor. I know the MM style but i was wondering if you would have any suggestion concerning books which are worth to read or stuff like that. I would love to get my hands deeper on that subject.

[ Johnny B ]

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Fear has a large shadow, but he himself is small. ~Ruth Gendler

The main purpose of winging is to divide and conquer, and there is no "best" or "universal" system to do it. How you and your wingman will wing each other should be discussed and agreed upon beforehand (logistics should be planned out extensively with him, especially), or just follow the winging protocol that your local lair recommends.

I think that, if someone wrote a book about all the different ways to wing, it would just end up being a pointless and unhelpful piece of text like Thundercat's "Art of Approaching."

so i'll admit that this is a bit balsy but here it goes...... i am a 23 y/o afc w/ an extra challenge, i was born with a dissablity. my situation is quite mild and i am completely cogently capable with an above average IQ. in fact, the only way anyone would know i have issues is that i walk funny, w/ slightly bent knees and a noticeable limp.
i am having trouble battling the stigma with my situation and women seem quite surprised when i ask them out. i make friends no problem but they seemed shocked if i want something more.

my question is three fold:
1. do you think that this situation makes my goal impossible/ do pua tactics not apply because i walk funny?
2. how can i help women see past my situation and take me seriously?
3. do any of you know someone who has also faced challanges and has been successful with females?

keep in mind that i AM A NORMAL PERSON and am not looking for pity, so be completly honest whatever your response

Hello Chief,
Lately I've trying to work with groups (on a pickup theory) and I need some techniques for building comfort with and within an entire group. Can you suggest anything.
-Vann

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Your issue is both internal and external, but the external factors are not what you think they are.

The internal issue is that you have limiting beliefs. Basics. Change that.

The external issue is that you probably need more sexualization in your game. Use sexual state from the start. Check out my "Sexual Attraction Explained In-depth" sticky in the Mid-Game section of the forum.