So I got pretty much everything set for tomorrow night. This girl I met at my fraternity's party saturday was hangin with me for most of that night. The next night she came to my apartment and I managed a kiss close. I thought I had it all set up and offered to let her spend the night rather than her walk back to her place by the time she was thinking of leaving, which was like 3 a.m.

She said she "didn't trust herself."

So I'm thinking she has the basic slut defense up. She doesn't want word to get out that we hooked up after knowing eachother for just 2 days and potentially gettin a reptuation of being easy. Well she wants to come down tomorrow night as we joked around about wanting to talk philosophy over a couple drinks. There's an expectation to at least kiss again based on the fact that we have before, and she's friends with one of my bros and from what he's found out I basically have the thumbs up.

But I'm not too good at getting around a slut defense. What are some good ways to get her around it? Because, and this is just me, I gotta make it so that SHE's the one initiating sex.

freeze out is an option I would think. So take things a bit further and then freeze out, you know the deal.
But what I personally would do is look at frank kermits 10 emotional needs of women, if you havnr heard of this search "frank kermit mens room" into google, its episode2.
This would involve essentailly making her think youre in it for the long hall. Watch the video and you'll get the idea. Adress her need to protect her reputation by proving that youre confidential with what goes on between you two.

Bit rushed but hope it helps

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She says she doesn't trust HERSELF, because she's been hurt before. It's not JUST a slut defense. Ya i'm sure she doesnt want to feel like one for getting with you but to get around the slut defense you have to put off like you're a sexual being, and that means being very physical from the get go. That means that physical contact is natural to you. Kiss close on day two = you have yet to become this guy.

So I'm saying she wants to get with you but doesnt trust YOU. If you were an outwardly sexual guy it would give off the vibe that you dont just game girls and that you have an equal standard for sexuality for both men and women. She doesn't trust YOU not to judge her, and in a way that's a good thing for now because it means she cares what you think of her. She likes you, and doesn't want your opinion of her to change if you sleep with her. She is emotionally invested in you and since she has been hurt before (assumed) she wants to be more careful.

Just hang in there. Make her feel comfortable. Let her know that you are sincerely interested in her. Have you had any conversation about where this is heading? Did she tell you herself that she likes you?

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This is a good analysis. But who cares reall?

I think you should just give up on this chick and move on. Think of it as a learning experience. Why spend all that extra effort building trust? Unless you really want a GF.

Start over again and try a new approach. Perhaps go a bit slower. You want to create a dynamic where they chick is working for your attention. This is the only way to become a real PUA, and not a chump. I would consider this chick spent.

The more act like you don't really care either way. The more the girls will want you.

i agree with most of this, but he's only been trying at it for a week.. there are some girls out there who only do have sex with boyfriends, and thats when you just need to freeze them out or u will be a chump (unless your looking for a relationship). on the other hand, some just don't wanna have sex until like a couple of weeks (these ones will also tell you that they only hav sex with boyfriends, lol).. so just invest some time and you'll get it soon..