Hey,
So I'm 22, slept with 6 girls, had long term, short term and one night stands. I've just started at university and I'm trying to pick up girls in loud night clubs. I'm used to bars and one on one conversation and I'm relatively good at picking up in these situations. However I'm struggling in the clubs and sometimes finding that girls who are 7's are blowing me off(or trying hard to get, sometimes they don't even respond and my friends seem to believe that they seem outright antisocial), which is crazy considering I've dated 7's to 9's maybe a 10 and all have had great personalities. I've tried different approaches from fast paced dancing to straight up 'hey, having a good night' bullshit.

I've begun to also notice that most the girls like to have some social connection, like through a brothers friend or friend of a friend or something. (like they don't want to think that I'm some randomer).
I'd be really interested in your thoughts on this matter. I'm not giving up on this one, I'm always trying to improve my game but this is becoming a tough nut to crack and putting myself outside of my comfort zone may well be interesting but the lack of success is kinda draining.
My thoughts so far are maybe I should be more assertive and starting dancing up close with the girls straight away(I'm not amazing on the dance floor but above avg.)
Or maybe I should work out a way of getting them on their own, as my game is way more effective one on one.
Thanks for your time and any comments and suggestions would be much appreciated xxx

i'd like to get help on this topic too, im struggling really bad in opening and create some attraction with girls on clubs, in fact yesterday was a bad night even a 4 or something blew me offim good at daygame and bars but in clubs i really suck and i'd like to improve in this area too.

thanks in advance guys

Well I dont consider myself an expert but this seems to work for me

I usually just walk traight up to a girl and ask her to dance and then take it from there. You may be suprised how much this works especially if you have a wing. Randomly dancing up around girls can work too but it can also turn out worse, but just asking the girl the worst she can say is "no" then move on to another one

i tried randomly dancing with groups of girls but turned out be kinda bad, even though i tried in diferent aproaches and energy levels, but did not work for me, so yep it's better to ask,

anyways man dont give up the good think it's that there is a lot of people to try diferent stuff plus you are not gonna see them again.

remember " i haven't failed, i just found 10,000 ways that did not work"

I don't know how to open on the dance floor... However, you might want to consider indirect openers for night game cuz they are really snobby in clubs, so NOT on the dance floor you can go with indirect opener to open the all set and isolate your target later on.

Gaining interest on the dance-floor isn't hard.

I'll admit it, I'm not a good dance; I do attract alot of attention, though.

How? I'm all over the place, I dance like I'm having seizures, I just have fun and take up space.

This makes me look flat-out ridiculous, sure... but I'm having fun and I stand out.

"I like your moves" is something I get... A LOT.

You should use group dynamics. Just going up to a hot girl can be very difficult sometimes as they will have their bitch shields at maximum level. Start talking to her less good looking friend and completely ignore the hot one. If the hot one tries to catch your attention (her jealousy will sometimes make her try to get validation from you) neg her by asking her if her parents never told her to never interrupt a conversation between 2 grown-ups.

The better your conversation with the less attractive girl goes the more jealous she will get. If you can game and kino the less attractive girl, even better because all the other girls will see you being preselected by their friend. After a decent interaction with the less attractive girl, tell her:"Introduce me to your friends. That is the polite thing to do.". Make her introduce you to her hot friends and start gaming them.

I know this is a bit sneaky but it is a great way to destroy the bitch shield.

i dont know for you guys but in montreal, its common to grind with strangers (no convo needed)... even an AFC who's slightly good looking, if at the right place and right time could get going with a 10.

my rules:
1.NEVER go from the back... either 'ask' either dance in her direction with eye contact (to see if she's down or not)
2.i tell her im from toronto (to avoid buyers remorse lool)
3.if shes not alone you cant go, cuz her friends are bitches... so u need to find 'instant' wingmans and go as a group dance with their group... so that each girl has a guy and therefore no need to be a bitch

or sometimes i say, ''weren't you at the (name) bachelor party last weekend?'' (to frame her into a party girl... like mystery: he tells the girl ''what i rly like about you is that you seem to be a leader, the leader of your friends...'' so that when the bitches (her friends) try to pull her off he says: ''well, aren't you the leader?'' ... and she stays)