Guys, I come across a situation I think all puas would have experienced at some stage.

I went out with this girl today on our first day, we met up for roller skate, then went for a drink in a local bar.

Got lots of chance to kino while skating, hand, and we run into each other a few times while having grt convos.

Then we transitioned to this bar, I tried hard to make conversation personal, made speculation on her personality to DHV, neg her a bit, dip in and our of deeper topics like family/ relationship.....but she just cant stop talking about her work! of cos, i tried to kino all the way with light touches....but i was just not getting IOIs! i made her laugh, but touching wasnt reciprocated. very annoyed.

At the end, i suggested to take her to this gallery i discovered she said yes, then sent her on a cab and she gave me a kiss on cheek goodbye. There was no escalation or any phase shift.

Now, i am not even sure if i should call her again , we got on well, but clearly it wasnt much sexual tension, and she left by 1030pm saying she needs to get up early, what BS.

Any bright ideas to generate anything further? I am keen on 2nd date and try different approach, can any of u spot any mistake or are some girls simply a bit hard??

Thank you guys. ace

Hey there,

Seems to me like the issue you had was DHV...I think you rushed the kino when she wasnt entirely comfortable (she HAD to when you were ice skating)...even though you negged and played perfect game, you very well might have not built attraction, or comfort when it came to kino....furthermore, I think a lot of guys tend to overplay..if shes interested in her work, think of something that is related to what she does, and unique, and invite her out again...

Tell her an amazing story about something you did (DHV, Qualify) and find a way to maker her apart of it..."if you were there it would...." AFTER A2...

thats some good advice chisum, thanks buddy. i can see now i didnt leave enough time to build comfort and DHV. i dont think i was negging probably either, just a few mild ones sprinkled here and there. i am probably still carried away by the one-time experience of simple kino-ing getting amazing response last month....

ANY MORE ADVICE, need help from u boys out there, like should i leave a couple of day before i call her ?

You may of come across as a little pushy.

I have no idea what you considered Kino but I think you were more worried about crossing the respect line than telegraphing your intent.

You also did not take control of the conversation when she brought up work. You didn't engage her with a more interesting topic.
"I know how boring work can be aren't you glad you're here with me instead of there. If you had a few days off from work what fun things would you be doing instead?"

It's cool that you time bridged but you need to concentrate more on her framing and making it more fun than your last attempt. Also remember to have fun. Don't think about getting the lay stay in the moment. If she has a great time then she may be more compliant.

Hope that helps.

If you like this girl dont give up on her. It seems you need to have more things to say in conversation. If she keeps talking about work try to lead into different topic from that. For example
HB "Work is so busy"
PUA I know its really busy in here too isnt it, theres a ton of people in this bar. Im usualy not a guy up for crowds but this palce is still pretty fun"

Take all her comments about work and jump of them in different directions. If she keeps bringing it back up you may have to be staright out. "Jeez is work all you ever talk about" Of course with a smile on your face.

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Although it may be too late with this girl, you should reverse roles with her. What I mean is, when she is boring you by talking about work all the time, SHOW your boredom. If she doesn't stop, leave early. It's works just like a freezeout.