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I keep getting LMR whenever I bring girls back to my place. This has happened at least 10 times already! What am I doing wrong?
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I got LMR with this one girl! What do I do?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:59 am 
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I'm new to this whole thing but I do not really have any problems seducing women that I dont know. I'm no expert but im getting better. My problem is, what if there is a girl you already know that you'd like to seduce, possibly even date. There are 3 girls in my life that I'm having issues with how to approach them.

Girl number one - I've known this girl for quite awhile but we have never been very close. After a few years of not talking, she randomly finds me on facebook. I've managed to open and She's comming over to my place tomorrow night to "watch movies". The problem is, she's got a BF but she flirts with me subtly and mentioned something about "cuddling". She also mentioned that she doesnt feel like she has a bf because he treats her terribly and how she wouldnt mind being single. If it comes down to cuddling, how should i proceed to take it a step farther?

Girl number two - This is a girl i've only met once or twice, but she is my friend over facebook. She is GORGEOUS. like super model worthy. I've subtly dropped hints that she should hang out sometime and she agrees that we should, but i cant ever seem to get her to make any concrete plans with me. She always replys with "i'm just so busy lately, i need to find some time" Is this just an excuse and she isnt interested? if so, how should i proceed to get her interested? How can i appeal to her without talking to her in person?

Girl number three - I've know this girl since she was practically in dippers. She's the typical "girl next door". In fact, she lives across the street from me. Up until about a week ago i hadnt seen her in over 4 years. She shows back up and is freakin HOT. When we were kids, we did have some sexual tention and even did things. She has a shitty Bf that she swares she's trying to get to dump her. What would be the best way to handle this situation, should i just leave her be until she dumps the guy, or should i try and hasten the process?

I know this is a lot to process, but i really am not sure where to go from here. I'm not trying to play any of these girls.. in fact if a relationship was to develop out of any of these than that would be great.. Any help that anyone can provide would be GREATLY appreciated.


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This is where you want to be. You want to have multiple girls going at once, to increase your chances of getting a girlfriend, both out of probability and also by playing them off one another.

Girl 2 is playing hard to get, because she's got options. Girl 1 and 3 are both ready to move on to a new boyfriend, she's just waiting for you to make her do it. (Most girls don't like being single and just move straight from one to the other even if it means staying with a bad one)

If it was me, I would escalate things with both 1 and 3, or whichever one is most keen, or whichever one I like most (if I can decide), and then let girl 2 find out and see what happens. Even if you decide to go with 1 or 3 instead of 2, girl 2 will see that she missed out on something and will reciprocate a bit more next time when the situation changes.


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This is where you want to be. You want to have multiple girls going at once, to increase your chances of getting a girlfriend, both out of probability and also by playing them off one another.

Girl 2 is playing hard to get, because she's got options. Girl 1 and 3 are both ready to move on to a new boyfriend, she's just waiting for you to make her do it. (Most girls don't like being single and just move straight from one to the other even if it means staying with a bad one)

If it was me, I would escalate things with both 1 and 3, or whichever one is most keen, or whichever one I like most (if I can decide), and then let girl 2 find out and see what happens. Even if you decide to go with 1 or 3 instead of 2, girl 2 will see that she missed out on something and will reciprocate a bit more next time when the situation changes.

thanks for the feed back.. i think that girl 1 is going to be the most likely to go for me.. what do you think would be the best way to attempt to go from "friendly cuddling" to something outside of the friend zone with her. Also, the plan to get girl 2 might work if they knew one another, but none of them do and I honestly have no idea how to flaunt that to girl number two. I see girl number two as sort of a grand prize, i dont know her that well so i'm just going off of looks alone.. but if i could pick up a girl such as her, then that would really take my game to the next level. Picking a girl up like her while sarging is something I have the knowledge of doing, I just have never encountered a girl as beautiful as her in the field to really test any of it out. You'd be surprised how different the game changes when you already know the girl. Maybe i'm just to far gone with her and stuck out this time.. I'm not sure.. but I'm going to keep trying to find a way to appeal to her.


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I agree with Conker on 1 & 3. 1 seems down...invite her over and escalate, ignore the boyfriend factor. Obviously she doesn't care too much about him anyway.

As for 2, it sounds to me like she's trying to be nice. If she wanted to hang out, she'd do it.

Get 1 over asap and make it happen!


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Don't get too hung up over the "prize" factor of number 2, don't throw away something good that you already have.

BTW face book is a great place to flaunt other girls to each other.


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so things went great with girl number 1... we did end up cuddling but she seemed a little hesitant when I went for the hand hold.. and i felt her starting to pull away from me so i slowed it down and just stuck with cuddling.. i didnt want to press my luck. She's still with the guy, but she text messages me quite often and we are supposed to hang out again this monday.. I really dont want to mess this up, any suggestions at all? any tips or tricks to get things moving a little faster? Thanks so much for the input so far guys.


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No, don't become the cuddler. That's friend zone.

As cheerleaders say...

Be aggressive, Be Be Aggressive.

Hand holding is basically friend zone too.

Answer this...during the whole time you've hung out with her, did you ever "feel" like you should kiss her at a certain point. Was there ever a moment that you thought, "I should go in for the kiss now." But you didn't because you were too nervous, scared, maybe you thought she wouldn't go for it?

If the answer is yes, then that's a minus for you.

Humans are animals. We have animal instincts. When it comes to the opposite sex, trust your instincts. Fuck your mind and common sense. If you EVER feel like now's the right time to go for it, then do it. You will be overwhelmed with the results.


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I totally agree. Just screwed this up and am in friend zone.


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Ok well I am in the exact same situation with the 3 girls. But girl 2 is who im after. Girl 1 and 3 are out of the question now i feel into the dreaded friend zone. Girl 2 and I have went out for the first time together yesterday. we had a good time and i got alot of IOI's. The only thing that I did wrong was closing. I keno escalated all night she was begging me to dance but at the end of the night i just took her home and i said goodnight. I just need some advice on what to do now, when it comes to beautiful girls i like i have a hard time closing. any advice anyone? pls


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closing has never been a problem for me... its always been getting started... but maybe we could help you better if you further explained what was going on.. like, what keeps you from closing? do you get nervous? or is it something else?


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Normally when im going after someone I dont want to have a future with closing is easy. But when I actually like someone I turn into this nice guy pussy boy. The one im pursuing is one of my friends friends. we met a few months ago and have been talking on the phone and on facebook. we both initiate conversations and enjoy talking to each other. sometimes it seems like she's busy and im wasting my time but than other times it seems like im getting somewhere. well like i said yesterday was the first night we really went out together. we went to a party where we both had friends. I worked the room well and i noticed her watching me. she was than begging me to dance and keno escalation began. The only thing I know I did bad was when we ended the night. she was giving me mixed signals on what she wanted to do. she wanted to stay out than she would say never mind walk me home. so I just took her home. I dont think I lost her yet but I need to step it up. Any advice on what to do?


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Well she wouldn't have said "let's go out" if she wasn't feeling it. Then of course she had some other, extra feeling that made her say "just take me home". Maybe she needed to play shy and not sound too interested in you, or maybe you did something that looked AFC and she backed down. I don't believe it matters either way. All you needed to know is that she did want to go somewhere with you - so find excuses to do it. Be confident about what you're saying, and don't back down out of fear of how she'll react. Cause that's what you did when you took the easier option of taking her home. If it really looks impossible and she's dead set on not going out anymore then just pass it up like it's nothing and say you can do it another time.

Anyway my advice is to step it up. Be a huge flirt, and when it starts to look like you might be showing more interest than her, eg. she makes some joke about how much you want her, throw her off the trail by saying something that suggests you're not actually after her, or into someone else. Then once she's confused, bring the flirting back.

What works for me is being "over the top" suave. I can speak in a deep voice, raise an eyebrow, pretend to sing the song lyrics to her if it's a love song, worst that can happen is she'll laugh. But part of that would be pulling her close and maybe going in for a kiss. You have to find what works for you though.


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