The Fallacy of Social Proof



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:24 am 
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Alright well I'm about 8-9 months into this game! Pending mastery which is 3.5 years. Anyway, I'm doing fairly well, quite competent in generally all situations! I have sticking points and things but hey whatever we all do. What i wanted to specifically talk about today was Social Proof and the effect on the HB.

Alright so I'm in the city, fairly warm nice gorgeous day, i see a hot girl sitting by herself, must’ve been a hb 8.5 very social attractive person, i open her, we joke a little, have a conversation whatever, shes into it but shes like whatever... so i hit her with a dhv lacing social proof and make it as if she has some serious competition. Suddenly she lights up and acts more responsive to me telling me that psht they are no competition to me.
All is good i time bridge, so i close i take her Myspace. Whatever great experience, i msg her on Myspace saying 'omg look at all the cute competition you have, whats a way to tell someone i dont like them? this girl has been bugging me all day' the social proof switch is finally hit when she says ' why wouldn’t she hit on you, your gorgeous babe '. Bang!

Now here is the problem, its more with me then her, whatever she was attracted to social proof.. i cheated i faked it until i made it, i meet 4 girls and i added them on Myspace i pawned them against each other for competitive purposes and i was equally socially proofed on all sides.

I feel like i haven’t earned it, like shes attracted to my social proof rather then me.. Sure she now is alot more receptive and wants to get to know me all that, but i feel like its been set of for the wrong reasons.

Any thoughts, about my situation, all welcome!

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:33 am 
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Dont worry about it, the further along you get the more girls you attract and the social proof becomes real. So just deal with the guilt until your social proof is genuine nothing to worry about.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 5:17 pm 
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Exactly what curse said.

Plus dont lose sight that social proof is a just a peice of the pie that is attraction.

Remember also that social proof is somthing you have total contorl over. Building it in clubs etc is all under social proof. So if you dont have a bunch of girls falling all over you its cool dude, you created it all so yes in a way she is attracted to you.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:26 pm 
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Social proof becomes real as soon as you start to believe it yourself. You walk around wearing your social proof long enough and it starts to show up in all parts of your life and then its no longer pretend, its real. Unfortunately the only way to make social proof real is to pretend for a while. I don't care who you are, from Donald Trump to Brad Pitt, these guys didn't start off as kingpins, they had to dress up and act big to attract the attention that has made them who they are today.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:22 pm 
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If you're pawning four girls off of one another, that's not social proof. That's preselection, and it's fucking awesome. Social proof fits more typically into the "I lead men and have many friends" value definition than the "girls like me" definition. A small correction, but an important one.

If she's into you because other girls are into you, it's for all the right reasons. She's been set at ease that you're not a creepy-psycho-stalker person, and that other women have seen value in you. That makes her intrigued; she wants to know what they see in you, so now you have time to show her.

Also, you're problem is an inner game issue. You're not sure you're worth her attentions. You _are_ worth her attentions. She just told you that. Take the compliment, disqualify yourself, relate-reward and roll with it.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 12:38 am 
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yeh, small mistake, pre-selection is right. Yeh monkey you hit it spot on! You all did a good job for framing it, thanks, it helps!

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