Let me say that I always enjoyed the challenge of nlp, being able to talk and lead and not just babble. One thing is that I always use it with good intentions in mind, so dont use it on just everyone who has a nice ass. Anyway, this brings me to my two questions.

1. In your experience have you created stalkers by using it?

2. If you have, what would be a good way thru NLP again to get rid of the stalker?

I think they might generate some interesting discussion. Im asking this cause i read somewhere that stalkers many times end up even killing the object of their affection, in their mind if its not theirs its not going to be anyones. So can you UNDO what you DID with NLP?

Before using it I would suggest researching ALL of it and being aware of the consequences before doing any of it at all.

I have 2 stalkers that no matter how hard I've tried to get rid of over the last 3 years keep coming back once a month or so.


The best way to not have stalkers? Don't over do it on the NLP in the first place.

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That is exactly my point...how to undo it? What did you do to these girls? What states did you elicit and amplify in them? You tried NLP on them but the other way around? Maybe we can come up with some interesting pattern to try to undo anything we might have said. I still think this is an interesting topic.

Also i have researched and used a lot of stuff, but besides the stalker warnings there is not much out there on the topic.

Get them to access a series of negative emotions. Fear, hate, guilt, sadness, anger, etc.. And create an anchor for that. Then move that anchor to yourself. Then you'll be stalker free

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To illicit these feelings using NLP is extremely immoral and the major reason forbidden patterns are "forbidden".


"Leave them better than you found them"

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if they were meant to really be "forbidden" then they would not be up for grabs by anyone on the internet. "forbidden" is a marketing scheme. Now as to the morality or immorality of them, i guess its up to anyone who is using them and their intentions.
The question was not if they are immoral or not, or if they work or not, or even if they are forbidden or not. it is problably one of those "forbidden" patterns or one even better that creates a stalker, the question is how to undo that even if you come up with a pattern thats just as good on your own and you use it because it does not have the "forbidden" label to it.
Lastly, fixing a stalker would not be immoral even if you elicit negative states. I guess the intention would be to make her better about the object of her stalking.
Just my opinion.

And I defenetly agree leave them better than you found them.