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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:51 pm 
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Well she just texted me to see if we could do a 90 minute session today, supposedly because I'm going to be out of town next week. It's funny to me how she's still all professional in texts. (Actually more professional than she used to be, since she used to be very flirtatious in texts.) Anyway, we'll see....


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HAHAHA. okay new, way weirder twist, that I'm going to try to get to the bottom of. I didn't bring this up before because I thought I was being paranoid.

So I got added a couple of days ago on facebook by a random person, who has one of those invisible profiles that you can't search or add unless they add you. No pictures on the profile. The person claimed that they thought I was some semi-famous dude who has the same name as me. (We had just been discussing this semi-famous person a couple days before, BTW.) This was several hours after she blocked me on facebook and on chat, so we could "keep things chill."

Two of her status updates are familiar to me because I recognized them as being almost identical to things she had wrote on her chat updates. I tried to pass it off as a weird coincidence since I couldn't find any overlap of friends between her real profile and the other profile.

But today I see this anonymous person has added someone who the psychologist is also friends with. (I've actually found 3 mutual friends so far.) This HAS to be her. The fake profile has almost 70 friends, too.

(I've played dumb so far, btw, and acted like I didn't know it was her and thought it was a legitimate mistaken identity. Then I blocked the fake profile.)

WTF???? Is she some kind of evil genius who is sleeping with hella people on the side or what??? This is totally bizarre and weirding me out...

I figure I'm going to keep gaming her like I normally would because, if she IS an evil genius, it will work anyway because that means she's the one pursuing me, and if she ISN'T (which seems like a slim chance to me at the moment), then it should work anyway.

Thoughts? This turned an already weird situation into a way weirder one...


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Just play along for now and see where it takes you. For the entertainment if nothing else. No point calling her bluff concerning facebook imo

this has potential :D


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You so got this

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I sure hope so! Thanks for the encouragement. Appointment is in an hour... a little nervous!!! hahahhaa.


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Ok so here's what happened.

I went to the appointment and we sat down and had a long conversation about the nature of our chats and whatnot. Something I don't think I explained earlier is that when we first started talking, it wasn't actually directly on the chat. We just kept changing our status updates to comment on the other ones. And she played dumb at our appointments for a while, as if she had been talking to someone else (whereas it was obvious she was talking to me) and I had misinterpreted the status updates. But this time, the status updates were completely direct (me asking questions and whatnot, her responding, etc.) and a couple of times we actually chatted directly to each other.

But when we first started discussing this at our session, she still tried to kind of play dumb and act as if she was only responding to my status updates a few times, and that other times she was talking to other people, and that the whole thing was "confusing" because of the unclarity. Now, this is total BS. A few times she had updates that were probably to other people but in general they were clearly to me. AND, I signed on on invisible mode a lot, to see if she was online. Then I'd go online, and she'd immediately go online. Then we'd talk for a bit, I'd say I was leaving, and then I'd go back into invisible mode, and she'd immediately go offline. So she was clearly waiting around on there for me to come on and off.

Eventually she admitted that yes, were in fact talking directly to each other, a lot in fact. And she said she was very confused by the whole thing, etc, that this has never been an issue with her before, and so forth.

Anyway, our appointment was supposed to be 90 minutes (itself unusual because they are generally 60 minutes). It went for about 2 hours. THEN, I walked her out to her car (again unusual, since a therapist generally lets you walk out FIRST), and we talked for almost an hour on a street corner. So all in all we were together for almost 3 hours.

Some important highlights, since I have trouble remembering exactly what happened in chronological order:

We were in the elevator together, and I said she had something on her face. (She did but it was barely noticeable.) She stuck her face out so I would wipe it off.

A door was stuck and we couldn't get out, so while we were struggling to open it we had our hands on the doorknob together.

In general, she let me touch her during our conversation outdoors and was not weirded out by this (VERY unusual for a therapist).

As we stood outside and chatted for an hour or so, she told me all the reasons why she is freaked out. Essentially, having nonprofessional contact is HIGHLY risky to her. She explained that even if, say, 10 years from now I or a family member got pissed about this we could report it to the Board and get her licensed revoked. They would subpeona all her records, etc. This is why she was freaked out about chatting directly and preferred the status updates.

As she was telling me all this, and explaining how online chat with your current therapist is not considered okay and is itself grounds for revoking her license, I asked her: "But standing here on the corner chatting with me is okay?" She laughed and said "No! It's really not! I really should be going" but continued to talk with me for another 30 minutes or so.

We sort of discussed the possibility of me finding a new therapist or perhaps stopping therapy altogether. She seemed to dislike the idea but said she could help me find a new one if I wanted. At least it's on the table now, which is what I want. She seemed to think we could go back to a purely professional relationship and I said, "You're professional enough to know that that's not going to happen." And she said "I know..."

Also she kept harping on about all of our commonalities and how weird it is (we really do have a TON in common, despite our age gap). She wants me to make her a mixtape next week because we have very similar taste in music. She was really intent on me making her a mix of what I listen to, not just what I think she would like. She also was very intent on me not going out of town next week for my birthday, as I had originally been planning. (She would not tell me why, she was basically saying "just because", but I assume it's because she knows we wouldn't see each other if I left.) She told me I was extremely likeable and it's very easy for her to fall into more than a therapist-patient relationship with me, and that she's supposed to be the responsible one and she feels bad about not drawing the line sooner.

Okay so some conclusions in the next post... sorry this is so long...


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Okay for conclusions.

There's no doubt she is really into me. She has already put her career on the line and had completely inappropriate contact with me over and over again.

At the same time, she's really naive and silly about the whole thing. She keeps acting as if we could go back to a normal therapeutic relationship, which is clearly impossible at this point. And she never really tries to deescalate our relationship. (Except that she blocked me on the chat, but my impression is that has more to do with leaving records of our contact, which she mentioned as a very bad thing.)

This naivety is the reason I've been so hesitant with making an actual move. On ANY other girl I would've made a move a long time ago, because given all the IOI's I'm definitely in. But she's so paranoid about the whole thing I just keep imagining her freaking out the second I tried to go in for a kiss and so forth, even though she's okay with me touching her.

The tension is INSANE, and I think both of us feel it.

She actually reminds me of my last girlfriend, the one that was the reason I started seeing a therapist (!!!). (Digression warning.) With my last girlfriend, she was still sort of with her ex-boyfriend when I first started hanging out with her. (Except at the time she made it sound like they were completely broken up. I didn't learn until later that they were only OFFICIALLY broken up but still basically acted like BF/GF.) The first time we hooked up, she was in my room (I lived in a house with a bunch of roommates) on my bed, laying down next to me drinking wine and watching a movie. Eventually we were cuddling, laying there just looking at each other and talking and not even watching the movie. My hand was feeling her ass. When I finally moved in for a kiss, she said something like "No, I didn't think it was going to be like that!" (As if we were just friends!!!!) It totally blew my mind at the time, but I've learned since then that a lot of girls do similar things (even if not so ridiculously naive.) As it so happens, I ended up going down on her that night EVEN THOUGH she wouldn't kiss me on the lips. I.e. I went down on her before we ever made out. (Really weird. Has anyone else done this? This has gotten me kind of a reputation among my friends. LOL.)

So I kind of expect something similar to happen with the therapist. She keeps telling herself that everything is okay and professional (even though deep down she knows it isn't), but at a certain point she's going to freak out. I suspect this will happen at kissing by I'm not sure.

So any suggestions? Last session we switched and role-played me being her therapist for a little bit. (This was easy, as I had a dream a while back in which I was her therapist.) We switched seats and so forth and I asked her a few questions.

I'm thinking that this week, I should do the same thing. But this time, I can sit on the same couch as her after a while, and do some classic routines (trust test, the palm reading one, or any other good ones you guys can think of) and use as my excuse that I'm not a real psychologist but am only familiar with pop psychology. And I can probably get her to reenact a scene in a dream in which there is mad tension, and we're sitting next to each other like lovers do. And then move in for the kiss. (Cuz I'm thinking I'll set up the situation exactly like the prelude to a kiss.)

I think the key is flipping the script and taking the lead role, which I did to an extent last time but I didn't want to make it too obvious. So this time I think I can take it further.

Any further suggestions?


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Oh and BTW, if you can't already tell, I'm TRIPPING. This is the most invested in a situation I've become in a very, very long time. Normally I dont' really care that much about girl situations I'm in, but this one I'm thinking about day and night, it's fucking up my sleep and all that.

Thing is, I can't really tell her that because then she feels that what she's doing is unethical.

The only upside is that I'm pretty sure she's tripping too. Not only because she has already put her entire life on the line over and over again, but also because her status update on her chat the other day was a line from that Amerie song "One thing." It was "it's this one thing that caught me slippin". I changed my status update to "oh oh oh ohh" (which is part of the chorus of that song) and then she changed hers to "And I was so with it..." (Another line in the song.) I looked up the lyrics to the song and it's about a guy that she meets that she's tripping over, and who she doesn't know that well, and she has to keep their connection secret.

(See the video for the song here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACUNomJBwS4 )

What I really wish is that there would be some way to get her back on the chat. Because I'm sure she's obsessively looking at my info, and I want to keep that obsession intact and not end it because she doesn't have the capability of spying on me. Any ideas on this front?


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And the final piece I forgot to mention: Her husband is RICH. Definitely a multi-millionaire. I looked him up online and he is a corporate lawyer specializing in venture capitalist shit. He probably works like 60 hour weeks, and pays little attention to her, I'm guessing. (Based on things she has said about the nature of businessmen and also from what I understand is typical about rich lawyer types...) He also works about an hour away from where he lives. Also, I'm sure she has a kid but she keeps avoiding mentioning this. She slipped up and mentioned a nanny.


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Please tell us if you end up boning her in her office during your next session


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HAHA. I sure hope I'll be able to say that... damn the suspense is killing me. 5 more days!!!


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Lol, dude, this is some crazy shit...

I think you shouldnt be at all nervous about kissing her. In any case what I would do would be the method explained here many times, you know, pretending to go and kiss her then pulling out BEFORE she can object, then a few minutes later doing the same thing, and in a while she will be all over you.


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That's good advice, thanks. How many times do you suggest doing it? Or just until she starts to move in to kiss as well?

It's at times like this that I wish my game was ALREADY tighter, I don't want to be using this crazy situation as my learning experience. But oh well, I can't change that now.


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I dont think she will deny your kiss, clearly shes in to you.


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I'm with Chief on this one. Why haven't you done her up during therapy session. This would make a heck of a late night Skinamax on Cinemax soft core porn story My interest in this post is steadily decline and so might your window of opportunity with the therapist

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