hey guys,
im fairly new to all this. ive been using gamblers natural method and i like it a lot. i can open fairly easily and get into a conversation. its just finding things to say that i find hard. especially if the girl isnt giving me many hooks(ie info for me to elaborate on by connecting on her in a positive way).

ill give ye an eg im a uni student and i met this italian chick who is in my uni to study english briefly in a pub who i also met around uni last night in the student bar. she was walking past and said hello. it went like this.

her;hi
me;oh hi hows it going, valeria right(and i point at her)
her;ya thats right
me;(she was with italians so i said, triying to use this as a hook) you are with all your italian friends. i remember when i was doing my foreign year in spain, i was with people from ireland and england a lot of the time. its not good for learning the langauge but when you are feeling lazy its easy to just hang out with people from your own country.
her:ya (and she continued smiling), well there a lot of other nationalities in my group too

then it kinda flaked out and she said well by then.

we were both smiling a lot at each other during the conversation. im guessing thats a good sign.

what i want to ask you guys is how do you find thing to say when you are put on the spot with out talking about boring things like the weather etc.

how could i have extended the converstaion etc.

also she is friends with people who are in my spanish class. so i am going to try and make a good impression on them.

What do you advise guys. your help is much appreciated.

Jon Recovering AFC

This is pretty much the same question I had in my last thread. I hope some1 can help since I'm also interested in the answer.

try to keep something in ur back pocket for those situations...
as for contributing real value to the conversation, it really depends on what ur talking about..
being a good conversationalist comes from interacting with others a lot

something else to note is that whatever topic u start talking about might become stale pretty quickly.. mystery would say to "cut the thread" ie if ur talking about class for a little, change it up quickly: ex

you: hey, name right?
her: yeah blah blah
you: i think im ur whatever class, blah blah blah
her: some response

you: CHANGE THREAD - hey did you hear about the new whatever thats going on?

this will keep ur conversation going without being boring as hell

hey,

cheers for the advice!! sounds good!!

Dude I think both of your brain just freezed because there was a strog attraction between you too, but yah just change thread and keep plowing

CHeers

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V3nu

yeah i will change the THREAD and follow with places she been to or and ask about how she likes them. and u said u had a lot smiling so i will go for a hook and take her to good place she hasnt been too , and shes from a different country so thers a lot to talk about

i'm a big believer in natural game myself but it's never a bad idea to have a few canned routines embedded in the back of your head just in case you freeze up or the conversation runs dry

with a foreign exchange student like her there's a laundry list of things you can talk about sir, she's from another country! you can ask her about what she likes and dislikes at your university or country, how the cultures are different, if you were to visit italy where you have to go

these are just kinda boring bland topics but they can maybe provide a lead into something more interesting in order to build some rapport, it's more important at the beginning though to grab her attention, demonstrate you have value and even more importantly be funny, confident and calm just relax brotha!

also you said she was in a group, which means you can't just right away focus your attention on her try opening the whole set and engaging everyone in conversation and give them all equal attention so that you dont come off as just some guy trying to rail her but as a genuine and confident individual who's just trying to have fun that night, its also just a great opportunity to practice being social and meeting/ learning about other people

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