I hope this question isn't too open ended but how important is it that you qualify a girl?

Like what I mean is, can just having a decent conversation count as qualifying? Or does there have to be a specific DHV that she puts out there that I have to respond to (to let her know she's been qualified, thereby making me not look unselective).

I have to tell you, I dont feel like it it would be necessary to do a qualification routine, but please inform me of your knowledge and opinions.

to me at least, the purpose for a qualification routine is to make the girl feel like she earned me. there are a few reasons;
if im giving her the impression that im the alpha male, leader of the pack kinda guy, then i need to keep on with that image, the alpha male wont take a girl just becasue she would take him. thats what makes him the alpha male.
also, if you accept a girl right after she gives you some ioi's then she may get instant buyers remourse, and think "oh i conquered him, just like every other guy" and move on - not what we want.

so overall, qualification routines help in making you seem exclusive and thus makes the girl chase you.

let me know if this helps!

happy gaming!

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Yeah, that 'buyers remorse' thing you mentioned sounds like a fair statement. I think with the way I'm talking about though, the game is slowed down because its like a process of getting to know them. Maybe it'll happen in one conversation, maybe it will happen in 3...but since the game is slowed down, a girl isn't going to get that immediate buyers remorse that comes minutes or hours of making plans.

It's putting a little bit more time in on one person (don't worry, I won't get caught in the pitfall of giving her too much attention) but maybe it could be someone I like and might want to have stick around.

Just so we are all on the same page, I dont consider a number exchange a hookup. Nor do I consider a number exchange necessarily a good thing unless you've already sexed her or know you have it locked.

yeah, i get what youre saying, about how its on a longer time schedual, the only thing id like to say now is that even if you are going to qualify her for real, when you meet her you need to give her some fake qualifying so she feels like she chased and earned you - that way you can actually go far enough in the relationship to qualify her for real.

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"[Saint Pixie] is the foremost expert on teen game." - Jason Cross (Founder of PUA Aristocracy)

Just to add a little bit more information that you all might find relevant.

I'm 29, possibly setting my sights on a 24 year old bartender that was asking about me. Interaction has been limited to asking for beers and passing each other but I got an IOI while passing her. I'd have to go into long detail to explain the IOI, so you have to take my word and mark it down as an IOI.

Dude, once I bang her, I dont need to qualify her. I'm sorry, I probably should have clarified... I'm not down with dating. I'll do the instant date thing, thats different. Also one date is fine because obviously you have to go somewhere before taking her back to your place. But I don't ever see putting myself in the position where I'm trying to pull a full blown courtship.

But yeah, other than that part in bold, I hear ya. I'd like to hear more from other people.

Qualificattion is majorly important!!!

Qualification is a tool used to gage where you are in the interaction. If you try and qualify a girl and she will not answer, hesitates, ask why, etc...then she is NOT attracted to you, or not enough to give you these kind of answers. Then you need to go back demonstrate more value then try qualifying again.

Only after you have her qualify can you really know if you have enough attraction to move on with the process.

Start with small qualifications and if she answer you can gain momentum to ask bigger qualifying questions, such as Mystery's "So what do you have going for youself besides your looks?"

If you get her to qualify to something like this, you have attraction, and can move on for you MM people to A3.

Im confused on what qualification is.
Can you give me several more examples of getting a girl to qualify herself? Thanks.

Anything that gets her to try and display a quality or attribute to you really

"So what makes you stand out from every other pretty girl in here?"

"So tell me three interesting things about yourself?"

"Whats the most adventurous* thing you've ever done?"

*Or dangerous/exciting/naughty you get the idea

Basically it's putting the weight of the conversation on her in a new and interesting way opposed to the "whats your name, where do you work, you come here often" every AFC spouts.

Plus as she's been carrying the conversation and talking if it starts to die she'll feel more responsible and try to keep it going and it has it's uses if she back justifies any behavior with you "oh i must have liked him as i was telling him all about myself".

Best advice would be to make a list of the things you really want in a girl and qualify her for those.

For example if you like adventurous women:

"Whats the most adventurous thing you ever done?" If she answers, good sign of attraction, if NO attraction you get an "i dunno" or "why are you asking me that" or one of these kind of responses

Qualificaiton does not have to verbal. Getting her to move or hold a drink is a form of non-verbal qualification as well. You have some attraction if you can move her, one thing I do is say "Hold this for a minute" give drink to her, look at my phone like im texting, put it away, grab drink back. If she's willing to stand there holding your drink for 15-30 seconds attraction, if NO attraction she will refuse to do it, or will just put it on table or something.

I think qualification is of huge importance. It gets the girl to invest in the interaction, which is what you want. If she accept your challanges, she is already investing/qualifying herself. A good thing at this point is to reward her for this but also to tease her sometimes and give her little hard time as response (which will get her even more to invest and qualify herself).

I think the whole A2 and A3 are all about qualification. Use the bait-hook-(reel)-release or sequence:

Here are some examples:

Example 1:
- You: Ok, you seem like a cool girl (bait)
- She: thanks (hook)
- You: can you also cook? (bait)
- She: sure (hook again)
- You: I am kind of tough when it comes to dinner and such (bait)
- She: no problem, I can cook really well (hook again)
- You: You are really cool, I just know two women like that (reel/bait)
- She: yeah? who's that? (hook)
etc.

When things go like this, you have strong attraction. The girl keeps herself investing.


Example 2:
- You: Ok, you seem like a cool girl (bait)
- She: thanks (hook)
- You: can you also cook? (bait)
- She: no, I don't like cooking (now you have what is called 'defiance')
- You: well, than you will have to order for us (bait)
- She: haha, ok (hook)
- You: but don't order fish, I don't like fish. What about you? (release/bait)
- She: I like ...

Here, the girl does not comply all the way, but your frame remains strong. Go back and try again. Get in to some talk about restaurants and food/drinks. Chances are good that there will be more compliance


Example 3:
- You: Ok, you seem like a cool girl (bait)
- She: what makes you think that? (defiance)
- You: you remind me of someone (bait)
- She: who? (hook)
- You: a niece. I love her a lot, but sometimes she can really be a bitch (bait)
- She: what? (hook)
- You: nothing really, I will tell you later. I am gonna get a drink. What do you want?
- She: nothing, I am OK (defiance)
- You: always cute when you are not demanding

Here, the girl obviously gives you a hard time. You throw baits to her and she will only accept some (if any). However, you are keeping a strong frame, which is good (you don't jump through her hoops and ignore her questions slightly). If a friend of her is in the neighbourhood, start gaming her immediately, but do not take all attention away from the first girl. If the friend is playing along, the first girl will probably also. The chances are good that you will generate strong attraction after all.


Example 4:
- You: Ok, you seem like a cool girl (bait)
- She: what makes you think that? (defiance)
- You: you remind me of someone (bait)
- She: no response or just "ok" (defiance)
- You: your nose wiggles when you talk (bait)
- She: haha, ok (defiance)
- You: cut the interaction

Obviuosly, there is no point here. However, this is very unlikely to occur: afterall you are in the qualification phase and not in the opening phase. If you make it to the qualification phase, the girl will usually be more open and willing to interact further.


I hope these examples, which represent possible scenario's, will give you some clarity on qualification and its relevance. Comments and suggestions of course welcome!