Okay, I'll start with the layout. I'm a 21 yr virgin, but I've met this hb7.5 with whom I'm quite positive its going to happen. I've been on a handful of dates with her, but we haven't kissed yet.

I've stumbled on my first real obstacle: kiss-closing. Openings and midgame are okayish for me but they will improve with experience. However, I have no idea on how to kiss-close.

I live in a relatively small community (600 students) so gossip is rampant, and quite frankly I'm afraid of (sexual) rejection and resulting social rejection. Add this to my inexperience and I'm just to chicken to do anything. Kino abundant.

Do you guys have any suggestions on how to initiate the kiss and how to escalate?

Yours,

Nim

Assuming that "kino abundant" means that you've kino'd her a lot, she'll already be used to your touch and thats a good thing. However, if you've been on a few dates and you havent kissed her yet then you run the risk of getting her bored and friendzoning you. So best get that kiss next time you see her!

As for the "initiation", it's simple. There are many little gambits and lines you can use until you're comfortable just vibing it.

You can try the triangle gaze, which is where you look in her eyes, then slowly down to her lips, then back to her eyes. If she's still comfortable then the kiss is on.

You can try Mystery's line "Do you want to kiss me?"

Her: Yes - Then kiss her!
Her: Maybe - Say "Lets find out then" and kiss her
Her: No - Say "I didn't say that you could, but it looked like you had something on your mind" and back off a little, and rebuild attraction.

Those are just two which came to mind, I'm sure there are many others if you use the search function...

Kiss closing is easy, you just have to have confidence and realize that it's not a big deal. You've probably missed tons of easy kiss-closes b/c you just didn't have the balls to go for it.
You can use Mystery's lines, or no lines at all (I've used the 'do you want to kiss me? "uhh, i dunno" - well let's find out.' - line It worked great).
When the time is right, but you're not sure how to seal the deal, just put your arm around her and pull her close to you, it doesn't have to be in a super sexual way. If she doesn't respond by pulling away or with other bad body language, just look her in the eyes and kiss her. voila.
There's really nothing special to it and it's not a big deal if you don't build it up so much in your head.

Yeah, the friendzone is exactly what I'm afraid of. I've got a date with her tomorrow, lets see if I can close it.

Thanks for the suggestions!

- Nim

the easiest way to kiss close, if your finding major issues i find is that you just take her to a dance club or something to that extent where everyone around you is doing that very thing to get you both in the mood, and it will create instant attraction for the night. It's not the same as if you were to kiss close during the day, but it certainly helps you take off the pressure and perhaps its what you need to get over the edge of not being able to do it all...

Maybe I shouldn't be the one giving advice here, cause I have the same problem as you do. But I think these other guys are right.

Our main problem is we don't have the guts to go in for a kiss. Like Brah said, its not that big a deal. Just go in for it.

Another method I've read...

Buy a shit load of hershey's kisses. Put a few in your pocket (more than one). When talking to the girl, put on a straight face and say "You wanna kiss?"
If she says yes, your in! Kiss her. Or if your feeling confident and for some reason wanna fuck with her more, be like "I meant the chocolate" and pull it out. "But if you want to that badly..."
If she says no, then be like "Alright" and pull out a hershey's right in front of her and eat it. She won't know what to say!*

*(this isn't mine, I read it in the routines sticky)

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