The way girls brains "work" is
20% physical looks
80% personality...

if a girl invites you to approach her, you cant just go and say "hi you're cute" ..
you just can't rely on your looks, you may get her to sleep with you, but I doubt it will go from there to anywhere.
If you approach her, and you turn out to have no game at all, she will get bored, think you're a looser etc...
Thats why some good looking guys cant get girls, because they have no game, no personality, nothing that interests a girl other than their looks. You cant go into a relationship based only on looks.

Now to your question of using openers...
Why not? Hell! It may be even better... if you saw her inviting you, she probably thinks you're going to come and introduce yourself, but when you don't, when you ask her something else, and be cocky and funny, she will be even MORE attracted to you, because youre not a complete looser and are different from all the other guys!

Lol the topic creator and anyone else here who claimed they were good looking, should post a pic. We'll see.

alot of you guys to need to relax. theres a difference when your good looking vs. ugly when it comes to game, not a huge difference but a difference. if you look good and a girl is already eye balling you, theres no need for those canned openers. i think thats the point he's trying to put out. Game is game, thats common sense, but theres different ways to work with it.

you guys getting defense here need to work on your insecurities.

I have been very good looking since high school and for awhile I relied on a combination of that and 'luck' to get girls. However my ego would crash and burn at the first instance of rejection leaving me temporarily depressed and self loathing usually followed by a serious case of one itis.

Since then I have endevoured to understand women and the 'art of pick-up' not so much so I can do 'everything' right (because that is near impossible) but so I can recognise what I did wrong and in doing so learn and evolve at my core.

I have noticed that many of those who take up this persuit of PUA greatness tend to fall into the trap of reciting already experimented lines (or sets) like a stale over rehearsed actor playing to a sceptical audience. Women have been proven to be over 50% more perceptive to body language than men and I believe that if you rely solely on the words and methods of other men your body language will betray the insincerity of your words (they call this incongruence) and result in your target feeling alienated from you rather than connecting with you because they can just tell that "something isn't quite right" about you.

I suppose what I am trying to say is, looks don't count for much if your socially inept.

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Umm. This did happen to me once. She knew me through a friend. I did not know her well. She was high on mushroom and came on to me at a party one time. I acted uninterested and she actually took off all her clothes and lied down next to me on a bed in someones room. The more I acted uninterested the more she was determined to seduce me.

I hesitated for a while then took her back to her place for some serious sex. She was nuts of course. But it was fun.

In hostels they will.

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"you're cute" is a surprisingly effective opener if you're a good looking guy.

I wouldn't use it.

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Agree. I don't even bother with clever shit any more. I just ask how her night is going.

If they really are cute I do tell them. But I have high standards. If you open with looks, the next phase is to tell them they look like an old GF. That always gets them excited.

Dude forget the comments along the lines of "if your good looking it doesn't matter" Cause it does. I personaly dont think im that attractive but im always having girls and guys alike saying "God you must get all the girls" And yet im still not happy. Being slightly more attractive helps in a few ways,

1. It almost negates the use of a propper opener, you can go indirect less often and possably jump straight into kino like behaviour. However this takes confidence and an attractive but unconfident male will get blown out in this instance.

2. It will get you more IOI's. She likes what she has seen and has already built a small persona in her head about you. People seem not to think of other individuals in mixed terms; instead we seem to see each person as roughly good or roughly bad across all categories of measurement. A social psychologist Solomon Asch suggests that attractiveness is a central trait, so we presume all the other traits of an attractive person are just as attractive and sought after. (Cited from the Adonis Effect in italics)

3. However being attractive will never take over from your game, ive got many mates who are good looking but less than half are good with women.

Hope this helps, Saint

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I totaly dissagree buddy otherwise good looking people wouldnt be used in advertising, the make up industry wouldnt be worth billions of dollars and brand names would have no object. The fact is how you are turned out and how you look gives a first impression. The game works to display higher value, which makes you more attractive but this post is about naturaly adonis like men or men with a degree of good looks using the game.

However your entitled to your opinion, im just voicing mine its not a flame

All the best, Saint

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With all due respect Impact your wrong. People judge others all the time. To say otherwise is to be naive/ignorant about the world around you, as well as your own thoughts of others.

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Nohawk, check out Zan Perrion's natural game forum, it's a place for naturals and good looking guys. Good looking guys like you and me are natural alpha males, we are genetically attractive specimens and women are going to gravitate to us first- I didn't invent the laws of nature, it's just the way it is. All things being equal, the most attractive guy is going to have the advantage. But that doesn't mean the most attractive guy is going to always get the girl- you've got to create an attractive personality as well. I get what your saying about canned material and openers being counterproductive- these kind of gambits can be DLV's. If you are a good looking guy, you need to come with some strong direct game- women will respect you more for it than if you beat around the bush. Be commanding, playful, indifferent and definitely work on your mid game- keep the entertainment going.

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