Heya guys, I need a lil help with this one~

There's this chick I picked up a couple months back. She goes to this gym I used to work at. She's 25 year old lawyer, I'm a 21 year old college student. I started of with an ESP routine and The Cube, to great effect. Made sure to keep Kino up with shoulder touches and pats on the back (no High 5s, she thinks they're childish ). Then we had a lunch date (which she paid for since she lost the 5 Questions Game), which afterwards moved to the cinema (where she enthusiastically cuddled up). And then we moved to the park, did more comfort fluff talk. Then I did Mystery's Would You Like To Kiss Me, to which she said No so I just turned away. And then we got dinner.

Ok now since that night we've been stuck in this thing where
(1) We go out together like once every couple weeks
(2) We occasionally speak on the phone
(3) When we go out, we hold hands and cuddle and everything (except at places where her boyfriend's friends might be around)
(4) She still stops short of kissing

I don't have my own place (college student ), and she lives with her parents. Being that what we're having is basically a pseudo-affair on her part it's a bit hard to schedule things sometimes. It's not like I'm goin one-itis over her, but this is a challenge I like to surmount since most of my chicks are in this demographic (someone else's girlfriend ) for some reason hahah! So guys, what do you think are my options here? (besides just giving up; I know there's a way to do this right~!)

the mystery kiss close.. altho i think its an awsome tactic i think really its an part of the a3 jump to s1. i find that it primarily works on party girls that dont need comfort but when your working with a girl like this, your actually going to have to go all the way from a1 (your aproch) to c1 (your start of confort) finish at c3 and transition into s1 (you kissing her) i would say its best to not ask or anything just make the move. basically once you have her cuddling you and your talking start triangle gazing her if she doesnt move back after doing this 3 times kiss her. and while your kissing her keep kissing her dont make it a peck and back up to see her face this is kinda like golfing if you look up to see how your doing things are likely to end and be hard to start back up.

you could try Futures "almost kiss" routine but it is a little ballsy.

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Thanks . But remind me again; what's the Triangle Gaze and the Almost Kiss routine?

I don't think I've ever used the Mystery Kiss Close successfully anyway. All my KCs are just Kino escalations until she's okay with me putting my face close to hers, pecking her cheeks, n then I just pull her in to land her one on her mouth. In what scenario would ASKING a girl to kiss work?

"hey you wanna kiss?" - you
if she says yes get busy if she says no pull out a hersheys kiss from your pocket and start eating it in front of her. She will either feel dumb, embarrassed or just start laughing thinking your cute. Make sure to continue to smile from the time u take it out to the time your done eating. Credit for this goes to Jay Wa

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Futures almost kiss link: kissing-routine-vt54121.html?highlight=

Check the routines section for other kiss closes. working on a new one myself but will add it if it works, wont if i got a broken jaw

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triangle gaze is where there eyes move from your left eye to your right eye to your mouth. No paticular order.. it kinda looks weird like there eyes are flickering..

Woot thanks guys .

I think I'm gonna try Jay Wa's Hersheys' KC. That one seems the most congruent to my personality and to this particular chick's dynamic. I'm defo gonna save Future's for future use though!

Okay so what's the success rate like for you guys with these techniques? Would it still work after that failed Mystery's KC? And oh, I tried this other thing I once read here that goes "Hey, close your eyes and open your hands, I got a present for you" and when she does you just hold her hands and go for the kiss. Didn't work; she opened her eyes at the last second and pulled away. So after these 2 failed KCs (was a long while back) do you guys think using, say, Jay's Hersheys would pack the same amount of punch?

And the Triangle Gaze's been around for quite a while, from back in the first generation PUAs, right? How well does it work, really?