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| spicybean | PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:04 pm | |
| Offline | | New to MPUA Forum |  | Joined: Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:59 am Posts: 14 Website: http://www.myspace.com/blacksheeps101 Location: aurora colorado | | Im getting over of my anxiety stage of how to open a set.I am now hitting girls but am lagging on getting their numbers or going to their place.What should i be doing besides getting their number.We went sarging saturday and got to the club at about 12:30 at night and we here opening sets with a quickness but once they turned the lights on @ 1:30 we were still ready to go partying.But girls where using their im tired and i gotta work tommorow.How should i be closing them to rush them to their place??
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| TX_TECH | PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 7:18 am | |
| Offline | | MPUA Forum Enthusiast |  | Joined: Sun Sep 09, 2007 9:50 pm Posts: 56 AOL: LTHL+VNM | | sounds like your time is limited....giving yourself an hour and opening a lot of sets doesn't give you the chance to create a solid chance to f-close
opening a lot of sets is good when you get to the club around 11pm, plenty of time to work the entire room! but with only one hour, i generally open 2 or 3 sets and find the one that i think i can get the best results with based on kino, body language, conversation, etc
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| jinla | PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 7:38 am | |
| Offline | | MPUA Forum Enthusiast |  | Joined: Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:15 pm Posts: 84 Location: City Of Angels | | I second what TECH said.
Also don't wait until the night is over to suddenly suggest going somewhere else. plant the seed earlier in the night, that way it seems like it just came to you because you felt so comfortable with them. When you rush up to them at the end of the night, you seem desperate.
If you must go in last minute, don't use the whole "where's the after party" line, try something like, "Ladies, follow us to so and so 24 hour food joint" (instant date)
I think the same goes for number closing. I noticed that when I first started # closing I would wait to the convo basically died to ask for the number. Most of them would give me the number, but often i would feel like i forced the number out of them. Now I have made it a point to see if i can # close earlier, e.g. right after an IOI. This way it can be smoothly and naturally worked in. Then I just continue building attraction, and then exit a bit later.
I often see guys make # closing their objective, and then once that happens they shut down and stop talking or leave (BORING!) _________________ "50 below, knee deep in the snow" - Don Magic Juan
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| TX_TECH | PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 4:59 pm | |
| Offline | | MPUA Forum Enthusiast |  | Joined: Sun Sep 09, 2007 9:50 pm Posts: 56 AOL: LTHL+VNM | | ^ agree!
you need to be more assertive than you normally would if you are on a time constraint, you don't have as much time to fluff up a drawn out flirty conversation. let them know your plans by telling them what you're doing, restaurant is great, instant date and comfort zone
along those lines, if you are comfortable opening a lot of sets with ~1hr til close, then i would recommend number closing within the first 5-10min of talking with each set. i just personally like to have more time, and if i don't, then i'll focus on one set and attempt a solid close in the time i have
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