So this girl is in my class, about an HB7 or 8. We've talked a few times, but nothing significant. I'm not sure where to go from where I am now, so here's the background:

first of all, shes in 2 of my classes (we'll call them C1 and C2). we have C1 M/W/F, and C2 is on Wednesday, right after C1.

My plan was just to walk with her from C1 to C2 to start off and build some comfort, but she's always gone by the time I finish my quiz in C1 (we have one at the end of each).

One day in C2 she sat next to me and just quickly asked about the homework. I spouted a quick answer, then went on to just shoot the shit for a bit. Exchanged names, talked about our majors and some classes (shes a marine chem major, I'm marine bio).

In both classes, the seats are essentially set in stone (but not assigned), and she only sits next to me in the second one. Since that first conversation, I've gotten her number, told her we should study together, walked her to her dorm from class, etc, but kino has been lacking.

At the end of last week, I told her some friends of mine would be having a party on Saturday and she should come by. she said she might go home for the weekend, but she would let me know if she was around.

This is the area I'm stuck on:
I got her number this past Wednesday, so this past Friday I decided to see how she'd respond so some text games in class.

I called her before class to see if she wanted to grab coffee, she didn't pick up. She called back about 30 min later and said she had been eating lunch. I said it was fine, I just had gotten to campus early and was lookin for somethin to do, but I met up with some friends and I'd see her at class.

Got to class, and this is the ensuing text exchange:

2:20 ME (beginning of class): you goin to the game tonight? (we had a big football game that night)

(No response during class, and again she was gone before I could talk to her afterwords)

3:40 HER (after class had ended) : No i dont think so are you?

4:10 ME: no texting in class huh? i would've thought you'd be open for distractions since you're always the first one gone haha

4:15 HER: no i try to pay attention, but I count down the minutes till class ends

4:20 ME: oh you're a nerd! that's cute (small neg)

4:30 HER: haha yea a little

5:00 ME: that's cool, i don't know many hot nerds. you'll make a good study buddy

5:15 HER: haha thanks

5:20 ME: anyway, i better start gettin ready for this game, maybe i'll catch you tomorrow.

5:25 HER: ok have fun!

I have not attempted contact since, neither has she.

So here are my main questions:
1) So she's kind of a quiet nerd type (note: KIND OF).
a) Considering my lack of kino so far, was admitting that I thought she was 'hot' a bad idea? Since she is not a typical HB, I assume she would not be used to this.
b) Is there any way to undo the possible damage that I've caused to my chances by saying that?


2) How do I begin to kino her, especially considering the slow start?

3) her text responses are short, so
a) does that indicate lack of interest?
b) should I have backed off?

4) Where do I go from here?

You came across pretty strong in my opinion.
It is very difficult to create attraction via texting. Thats what face to face meetings are for. Texting it just a temporary filler until a day2 meeting.

To me it feels like you are dedicating too much thought to this one girl. My MO when I feel like Im thinking about one girl too much is to go sarge a few others and get some numbers. Give it a day. Then make contact again. It gives you some time to think and develop perspective.

Other than that, the best I can tell you is to try and time bridge to do something fun together later in the week.

Just my .02.
Happy hunting.

thanks for the response.

maybe it would appear i've spent too much time thinking about this one girl, but I think that's only a result of what ended up being an absurdly long post. i'll leave out a few more details next time.

Kino in a situation like this is very difficult and awkward to accomplish. If your in a club/bar, it is very loud. Every time you go into talk to her you can gently brush your elbow with your hand, side etc. Try to isolate her in a location where you can do that. Remember, you never want to be needy. You are running the show, don't let the show, her, run you. Be the hard one to get and make her play your game.

Also if your not talking to her, and you have friends in the same class as the one you both attend, try to DHV whilst not talking to her. She will notice. Make sure you DON'T look for a reaction. Act as if it is just how you are amongst your friends, even though your putting a little bit of effort in to make yourself seem like an original yet fun guy to be around.



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where to start... telling her shes hot bad idea... ill go into the why later on another post. basically what you need to do is give her a touch of space kinda freeze her out if you will, now this is going to be hard because she might not notice that your freezing her out since you havent really been talking. you need to make a huge personality change in this class start gathering friends what not become the most out going guy in you c1 and c2. that doesnt mean start talking to any one who will lower your social value like the really nerdy kids.

im thinking of a couple differnt ways you can go about this and im not really sure which is the best way to go, but you will have to decide

1 you can just blatently walk up to her ask her about the weekend small talk blah blah blah... phase shift into you talking to her about the text message and saying hey i really didnt mean anything by the hole hot thing i just thought maybe a compliment would get me a study buddy... good line to try and through inthere would be i thought i was being funny and cute i guess i was just being cute..

2 you can avoid the mention of the text message re open her basically as if you had never really talked before, avoid comfort building techniques at the moment you need to go heavey on Push pull and your Cocky/funny.. DHV's would be a good plus but you should phase shift into them thus grabbing her attention instead of demanding it. also if you know any routines like the cube or lie game or rings anything like that would be good in here once you have got your aproch down before you start your C/F or P&P.

either of these that you wanna go are good but you need to feel the situation out before going one or the other i personally suggest maybe a combo of the two if you can get the situation looking right for both of them.

DO NOT TELEGRAPH ANY MORE INTEREST IN HER
you need to stay in atraction for atleast 1 week

so basically you dont wanna use c1 or c2 as a referance they are actually already used in termanology c1- is comfort c2- is connection

heres where things went wrong you might have started reading up on your techniques but you have them all ass backwards and out of order

a1- aproch

a2-girl develops atraction to guy

a3-guy gives intrest indicators to girl

c1-this is where you break off from groups isolation

c2-this is where you start developing the connection (omg you like rocks i like rocks too)

c3- is where you start your kino moving from the safe area's like shoulders or uper back, to hands and face... back rubs work well. this is where you start adding sexuality into your kino: while rubbing her back scratch her out of no where.. breathe a little heavier not like your out of shape but more sentual..let them hear it but dont make it sound like your jerking off either..

s1- have her give you a backrub this is a good way to tell if there really into it or not and can save embarressment but when shes finished normally you will be on a bed floor something that your laying down on.. watch for triangle gaze if you get this kiss her, if you dont triangle gaze her 3 times if she doesnt back up or shift her body away from your face kiss her.. if she does look away go back to a2 for another 10 minutes or so..

s2- this is where your going to get the objection to sex... LMR (its a real son of a bitch when presented) just keep making out touching what not getting her worked up.. if she declines freeze her out.. if she re opens you start making out and kissing again.. try again.. if she declines... Repeat..

s3-this is where your getting laid.. nuff said.

sorry im a tool i forgot to close this up.. i really wanted a ciggerette and just posted that.. what you need to do is memorize the steps and go in order and re evaluate your prior convos with this girl and figure out where you went off track

sounds to me like you went something along the lines of

A1
C2- number closed some where in here?
A3
C1
A3