Awesome Opener diggidoyo Bro

I'll post progress soon...

How to deal with a girl that replies that she is engaged and that is telling me "hard luck this time"?!

as my last opener that i tested on Facebook as follows:

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Me: Dude, this chick in that pic is cute, Can you Hook me up with her?

HB5-6: lol, Dude it's not possible this chick is engaged, hard luck this time....
:D

Me: Oh, then i guess i can be friend with her at least! ;)

P.S. and please don't tell her i asked about the hook up! :P

Can u do that favor for me?

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and no response yet, but it's still early it was only like an hour ago.

Did i do any mistakes?

I feel like i did...
i guess i should have throwed a DHV story right away or a some kind of BFD (boyfriend destroyer) alike maybe? or saying like "are you sure?"

i just have many replies in mind and i'm not sure which is correct.

Plus, i know i replied fast, should have waited more time.

and what to say if she didn't response at all in the next 12/24 hours?

the question at the end came off as needy. In fact I think the whole response was bad.

In field you can ignore when a girl mentions a boyfriend. If she brings it up again in conversation then you know you can't ignore it anymore and you need to address the issue by running BFD material.

Online I think you can do the same thing. If I were you I would have changed the topic. If she ever mentioned it again do what is described in this article http://www.seductionbase.com/seduction/ ... r/269.html I've done this before, and the girl has continued talking to my over IM, because I've disqualified myself and I don't seem like a threat to her relationship. Once in person you can kino escalate and close.

If she doesn't respond I would just ignore it. But if you want to pursue this, I'd wait a week or so. And send her a message with some other opener, start all over again.

Thanks xiagox

yeah it was a bad response, i feel pissed off at myself for it, she was really cute lol

But i will keep pursuing

and this article u give me link to is a Great article and wish i have read it a bit earlier.

but what "false disqualifiers" means?

and is it possible to follow-up with her or pursue after 2-3 days under the same opener? and what is best to say...

We shouldn't derail this thread, lol

so I'll just say this: false disquisitions are just something you say to lower the girls defenses. http://www.seductiontuition.com/mav/fal ... ction.html
like suggesting you already have a girlfriend or you guys would hate each other for being too similar in a relationship. You should try to give good reasons for why you can't be with her, like being too awesome or something funny like that.

And be creative! Why would you ever use the same opener on the same girl? Unless you twist it and make fun of all the afc's that might be using it on her. Then it shows you understand women and whatnot. Use a different opener otherwise, and keep in mind that you have opened her in the past. A good 2nd opener might be this a-little-myspace-gem-that-has-been-work ... 48531.html

No, i didn't mean to use the same opener again on same girl, i meant following up under the same conversation i started with that opener, even if she didn't respond i still can ignore that fact and use a disqualifier like you explained or DHV. it might sound a bit needy (cuz she ignored my last message and didn't respond) but i will balance it with a strong DHV follow-up, what do u think?

even tho using disqualifiers with the "mirror opener" is not logically acceptable (mabe just cuz i'm new not sure) cuz i already showed an IOI at the very beginning in the opener when i asked her to hook me up with the girl and then i go again and tell her me and her can't be together in any form using disqualifiers. a bit confusing for me.

and thanks bro for the explanation about the disqualifiers and the link. they were helpful.

I guess Calibration is the Key

and i'm sure not all women are alike, some openers/PU styles/routines might work with some but no others and vice versa.

Why Women has to be so complicated? lol

More Case Studies for the same Opener tried by me:

ME: Dude, That chick in those pics is Hot. can you hook me up with her? ;)
HB7.5-8: Hey dude, maybe I can ;) Name me 5 reasons, why i should :D
ME: Wow, Oh my god, you'll never guess what happened to me..

I was taking this female friend of mine to a naked resort couple of months ago, and she was like, I don't want to go there! Everybody is gonna look at me! I tell her well it's cool, you could just wear a bathing suit. So..she did. But of course, nobody is wearing a bathing suit out there. But eventually, she mellows out, and she gets naked, and she loved it! We were having a great time. except i had to get in a fight with 2 guys over there who was hitting on her in a way she didn't like.

Three weeks later, she calls me up, and she is like: Sweetie, i want to go back to that place! i want to go back to that place!

and I go: what's this is all about? And she goes: ohh hun, i kind of liked the attention.

Can you believe that!

HB7.5-8: Sure I can... women... ;-)
come play a naked resort at my place for a couple of weeks, I truly need the entertainment ;-)

ME:.............. (didn't respond yet)


Btw, this HB lives in a totally different country around 2002 miles away!
so if i decide to go to her i'll have to take a plane.

Did i reached the Hook-Point yet?
and Any Suggestions?

and what to respond if i wasn't able to fly over there...

it kinda works in her pic her hair was all 3 colors! im gonna try 2 get her # on the next text!


def the redhead she looks pretty fun, the brunette is cute but looks like shed send me to prison, and the blonde looks a little ditsy, LOL!

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From: hb9
To: j4f
Date: Jul 19, 2009 12:34 PM
Subject: RE:


lol wait a min which one r u talking about? the blonde... tha red head... or tha brunette?

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From: j4f
To: hb9
Date: Jul 19, 2009 1:48 PM
Subject: RE:



thats cool, thatll give her something to do while im away.
but, i just thought she had some pretty eyes and sexy lips.
OH! BUT dont tell her i said it.


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From: hb9
To: j4f
Date: Jul 19, 2009 12:28 AM
Subject: RE:


huh? moo? nahhhhhh... shes already taken sry.

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: j4f
To: hb9
Date: Jul 19, 2009 1:23 AM
Subject:


That chick in your pic is cute, do u think u could hook us up?

Me - dude, that brunette chick in your mirror is beautiful. can you hook me up?

Her - lol what?

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How do I respond to this?

Me - dude, that brunette chick in your mirror is beautiful. can you hook me up?

Her - lol what?

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How do I respond to this?

Yeah, good luck. Not alot to work with. I hate it when girls do that. Still, she responded which is better than nothing. You can try a different thread and she if she bites that one. Or something that just came to my head is sending back "I said... that brunette chick in your mirror is beautiful. Can you hook me up?" Haha. Makes me laugh when I think about it. She said what, so you repeat yourself. Untested, of course, but maybe you can test it for us.


Also here is a PM I got a while ago. Think there's some good information to be learned from it.


[My response]
As for the first girl HB7-8, don't let her take the dominant role in the interaction. She asked for 5 reasons why YOU should get HER?? Spitting out 5 reasons would be a trip down AFC lane. Instead, keep the ball in your court. Flip the interaction by making HER give YOU reasons. The smileys she sent makes me think she's at least a little interested.

Here's what I could come up with.

"Whoa missy. How about I give you 3 reasons and for the other 2 you tell ME what makes you so special. Deal? "

[what makes you so special] can be replaced with [what else you have going for you besides your looks] or something else you want to know.
And for the reasons you give her... don't just spit out 3 good qualities about yourself. I like to give one serious thing about myself, then a funny hidden talent, then something obviously messing around. Here's exactly what I have used successfully in the past.

"Well I'm in the military, I can curl my tongue into a three leaf clover, and I can bake 30 minute brownies in 29 minutes. Your move "

Mix it up to fit you personally. You can use the brownie one or come up with your own. Its just sillyness at the fact that I take the brownies out 1 minute early and call it an achievement. Should make her laugh but in all seriousness I've actually never baked brownies.




As for the other girl, I also have no idea what that last line means but she told you her name which is a direct indicator of interest. Tell her yours back and shoot the shit with her. Don't take that last line of hers to seriously. Girls don't spend NEARLY as much time responding as we do. We fret about what to say and what it means and what she might say and what about this or that... blah blahdy fuckin blah. 90% of the time girls read a message and respond with what's on their mind. Just keep that in the back of your head.

Also, as for transitions and closing I gave an example of a transition in my post. Just cut the thread by saying, "you're fun." And going off in another direction. For closing check out some other threads in this forum should be plenty to help you out.

Good luck!

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"If you keep doing what you've been doing, then you'll keep getting what you've always gotten" -anonymous

same thing happened to me
i would post a pic but the forum says i need 5 post to ensure no spamming

This shit worked on the first chick I sent it to.

HB8: haha your silly. but atleast you acknowleged that i'm in a mirror... you woukdn't believe how many people contact me saying "ah ha your tatts are fake cause they are on dif arm in that one pic" lol i'm serious

How should I respond to this. She seems pretty cool.

So I tried this out. Actually just blasted about 30 girls with this and so far only a few have taken the bait. Here is one. Any critiques?

Me: dude, that chick in your mirror is beautiful. can you hook me up?

Her: in my mirror? huh? lol

Me: yeah! tell her she has gorgeous eyes and sexy lips. OH! but don't say it was from me

Her: lol dude, you are confusin me...im blonde! haha

Me: ur cute. im adopting u as my little sister. we can climb trees and shit

Her: bahahaha.....your havin fun arent you...

Me: So I'm curious, what's your number one most awesome superpower? You get bonus points for being creative =)

Her: superpower....lets see it would prolly be fuckin shit up....Im pretty good at that.haha

Me: ohhh youre bad. i would have to take you out to secluded areas where there is no one around so you don't embarrass me. but eventually i would have to take you out with me into a public place, like to the mall or something, so you could buy me my christmas present, but you would start shit with the cashier cause she was looking at me. you would end up getting me arrested trying to help get you off her. i think we might have to break up

And that is it so far. She hasn't read the last message yet. I so wish I could take that secluded area comment out. It sounds creepy. I meant to emphasize a non social gathering area. Oh well

So the rest goes like this...

Her: I dont start shit im a happy person but I fuck shit up all the time and dont know how

Me: haha alright dork. I got to go. slip me your number and we'll continue the conversation tomorrow. But don't tell anyone. They might think your fucking shit up will rub off on me

Her: haha


I guess I totally screwed the #close.