It very hard for me at least to keep the conversation going .
Most of my pick ups for the next few months will be at malls and on campus.

I dont want to brag about myself and alot of the girls im attracted really arnt into the ultra cocky thing.
The whole delema is conveying all the good things about me without coming off as arogant to a girl who dint ask to talk to me in the first place, most of them arnt willing to open up to deep to a stranger in the mall from the start so its a matter of finding good 3rd party topics that arnt to personal .


this is how my approach goes. walk in front of a girl looking at some clothes . watch out of the corner of my eye if she double takes . if she dose i approach , she smiles and i say ..

Do you see anything youd like aroud here? im shopping for my sis and u guys have simalr style.

her. ummm yeaaaa , this over here is reallllly cute , dose she like straight leg jeans .

me: im not really sure, i dont shop for girl jeans often so this is all confusing to me , i thought a 0 meant nothing ....but someone just told me its a size now.


girl : lol yea its a little different then guys jeans , but yea i think shell love these.
(places jeans in my hands)

ME: .............................................thnxs , smile leave. sadly



this is my biggest stumbling block in pick up thus far.
i can get there attention .

if they get to know me i can keep them coming back .

i just need to work on the convos after approach.

I want to build up enough material that i will always have something to keep it going .this dosnt mean its all ill use or i even will use it everytime but, it would really come in handy to have a IN CASE OF EMERGENCY convo stored away .

Hey mate,

I like the bit about 0 being nothing, made me laugh! How about instead of settling for her first suggestion on clothing, ask which store she shops at most, lead her there by either asking for directions and help picking out anything from in there. Neg her on her choice of store or clothing choices. Then joke that she can be your personal shopper, and can carry your bags...you just gave her life meaning!

hope it helps, have fun!

i know some more established puas around here who were former nerds will know what to do about this. Once you became a pua and had the option to talk to the girls how did you keep yourself interested in some of the dumber hot chicks , its a real big turnoff to me when a girl looses me in a semi witty joke , nothing over the top but witty. if i loose interest its very clear to the target and things go down hill from there.
has anyone had this delema?

maybe theres some good material i could go through ?

i know some more established puas around here who were former nerds will know what to do about this. Once you became a pua and had the option to talk to the girls how did you keep yourself interested in some of the dumber hot chicks , its a real big turnoff to me when a girl looses me in a semi witty joke , nothing over the top but witty. if i loose interest its very clear to the target and things go down hill from there.
has anyone had this delema?

maybe theres some good material i could go through ?

Thats brilliant!

The asking for my sister bit , then neg her on her choice or i might even say i think she has almost everything in this store , and ask her her fav store and then ask her to come help me pick out something there.


i think the bags are a bit much, the neg for whatever she picks out should be efficient for the store.


id like a few different options so please keep them coming if people have more mall day game.
Now i need a good bit for the walk over to the store as well just in case its kind of far.

Alright fresh I have some ideas for you if your asking for clothes for your sister get her to put it on for you
if you ask her for clothing for you 1st build up kino then get her to help you put on your close (I have a friend who got a bj in one of those dressing rooms though he didn't tell me how) let me know if his helps

So when you are asking her to help you find clothes for your sister are you serious? do you actually want help looking for clothes?

If not I don't understand why you have to make up the charade if you say that girls usually find you attractive.

Just charge up loads of confidence and move in for a direct approach.

It could be anything like dancing with her in the store, asking for her number in your third sentence, or suggest a coffee in a nearby coffee shop - this is an instant date, I'm personally a huge fan of instant dates its wonderful aspect of pickup that gives you a chance to get to know each other immediately.

I am however not a big fan of routines where you walk in circles around your target too scared to strike!

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should i bring a big club and a slab of wolly mammoth meat to? and next ill say YOU WOMAN COME.

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It could make for a good pickup on Halloween

I like Jethro's idea of having her try on the clothes for you if you can build up enough compliance with her. It could also be viewed as an instant date to do so.

Going caveman and going for a direct approach aren't necessarily the same thing, one has class and the otherone doesn't.

Although I've had good experience with caveman too.

I just don't get why you want to put yourself through the trouble...

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Ussually, when the interaction comes to a dead end.. thats a sign that you built enough comfort to bust some balls. In your situation, when she handed you the jeans you could say..

O yea, This is it. I found it. I have never seen more beautiful thing in the world. Pants are nice too

she will get that you are kidding, and you can continue with.. If she doesnt like the pants, Im gonna blame it on you.. Im gonna tell her that some strange girl was checking me out in the store and than pretended to give me advice just to get my phone no. smile in a charming way..

than switch to normal conversation..

So what you girls are arround here?

yea blah blah blah..

You know, I feel a little strange with talking with you girls in the store. I mean, i dont even know you and Im already letting you give me advice for my sister.. I feel uncomfortable righ now.. showing that obiviously youre not..

o hahaha what you talked to us first blah blah blah..

Alright girls, I dont have all day for chit chat..I gotta split.. Here, put your number in my phone in case I need another advice on clothing

Get her no.

O and, one last thing. When I leave now and I turn my back to you, try not to check my ass out too much, cus I am really uncofortable when girls strip me naked with their mind.. by girls

But I think you have some inner work to do. I can see by the words you use, that you got some bad beliefs on how women see you.

Remember, the only way you will turn out to be arogant is if you think that you will turn out to be arrogant.

You are what you think you are

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There is nothing wrong with going direct but a real PUA does it indirect. If she is not into getting picked up and you approach directly she might shoot you down. If she is not in the mood for getting picked up but you start indirect, secretly change her mood and than attack, you can achieve something that a direct approach could never have let you achieve. At least, that is my point of view. I think this is one of the reasons why the great pickup artist always advice to go indirect.