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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:44 pm 
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So I'm really wondering what I should do after the opener. Clearly a DHV but what does that consist of? It's a story? best friend test? Can someone help with that because I'm a bit lost and I also don't know how to come up with a DHV story.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:58 pm 
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So I'm really wondering what I should do after the opener. Clearly a DHV but what does that consist of? It's a story? best friend test? Can someone help with that because I'm a bit lost and I also don't know how to come up with a DHV story.

Thanks
-DHV can be a test such as
1. Masturbation test ( my favourite, girls just love it )
2. Best friends test
3. 5 lies game
4. The Cube
Note: I usually include KINO to these tests by telling her that its important that she holds my hand while i run these tests.

(you find the context of these games with search )


-DHV can be a story allso which highlights your good humour for example. Remember, you can use opinion openers as DHV storys!! ( just modifie those a bit ).
I have been useing this " foreign magician "- opener which i made my self up as a DHV story also, never fails.

If you want to know my " routine " then its this:
1. Opener+ teasing what they answer ( Cocky & funny )
2.Hooking ( "where do you guys know each other" ? --> now you have " hooks " where to grab if the energy level drops )
3. DHV which includes kino
4. Isolation ( " Hey, im going to borrow your friend for a minute but dont worry if we wont come back , than we are probably getting married " )
5. More DHV ( usually cube or 5 lies game )
6. Number + kiss close


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:40 pm 
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Oh ok thanks a lot Johnny B. this helped a lot!!!

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then again I do want to know how to construct a DHV story because they seem really essential to the game. I don't just want to do tests because then she might think that all I do is test.

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Oh ok thanks a lot Johnny B. this helped a lot!!!
No problem mate

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they just posted something like a few days ago about this. i copied and pasted it for you so you dont have to try and find it.

Lately i have had a few people ask me how to develop and make DHV stories so i figured id post it as a guide her instead of going back and forth in PM's to them.

This is my stance on DHV stories...I ONLY use true material for DHV stories. Is my life really that intresting or over the top...not at all. Im not a celebrity or a rock star, but i have had a unique and intresting life now that i know how to gauge that.

The nice thing about how i do DHV stories is that you are using material that is true, that you know, and that you have an attachment to. You cannot get caught in a lie this way, nor contridict yourself. It comes accross genuine and more often then not they are stories you tell on a regular basis anyway.

Think of maybe 2-3 things that have happened to you in your life, they can be positive or negative events (as long as you have a positive ending to the story, like a moral or lesson learned). Share those stories with me, and i will help you elaborate on them to make them DHV material (try and keep each story to 1 paragraph, or 2 at the most). Remember that good story telling abilities are a DHV in and of themselves. Also while the core of your story should be true, the little details can be untrue (its not lieing its flirting )

I too have learned some tricks, a few magic tricks and a few cold reading tricks...i ONLY use these when convo dies or starts to go flat. I use conversational skills as the frame work and fill in gaps with routines.

Congruence will be there, emotion will be in your words. The idea here is to work on your story telling ability. Starting off with a few major stories and then eventually applying the know-how to every thing you say. Remember that Mystery says, say one intresting thing and people will say 'thats intresting'...say 10 intresting things and they will say 'hes intresting'.

Almost any response to a question should at some point be answered in the form of a story...youll get better at this with practise.

My favorite DHV stories are responses to common questions. Usually i will toss a C&F response to them first, then follow with a DHV.

Here is an example including my story...this is ALL true.

QUESTION: "Do you work/goto school/where do you work?"

AFC response: "I work in a warehouse as manager, i also do sub contracted computer work, and im looking to buy a buisness with a friend."

PUA response: "Im a retired trash picker." "Im a desposible lighter repair man" "im a proffessional trouble maker"....followed by AFC response maybe.

Better PUA response: C&F (maybe 2 times), then "Well its an intresting story...See i was kicked outta my house when i was 17. I started college and was working full time and by the time i was 19 i had opened a cell phone store with a buisness partner. It was awsome i had 2 apartments and a nice car and was living it up, but then...i wrecked my car and had to close the store...my partner came down with cancer. I went back to school and moved back in with my parents, but after a year they kicked me out again.

Forunatly my aunt and uncle let me stay with them and i made some new friends, my uncle has friends that go back like 40 years, i mean can you imagine. So they are all like lawyers and buisness owners and i got a job with one at his orthopedics warehouse as a manager. Another one i became real close friends with and we are looking to open a buisness together. The rest i do some computer work for. I hope soon to get back to where i left off and get to the point were i can start buying some real estate. I just cant stand the idea of working to make someone else money."

I know its a bit long, but im giving you the "short" version. I usually segment it, knowing that people will ask certain questions. Ill then elaborate on it with another segment of the DHV story and work towards the next fixed question.

For instance, just from the short parts i left out, im sure your wondering among other things:

-why i got kicked out
-what buisness i was in
-did the guy with cancer live
-how/why i wrecked my car
-what buiness im trying to get into

I assume that some if not all of these will be asked, and have DHV responses to them which are short but loop back into my story and let me continue.

This is just a simple response to a commonly asked question. Almost everyone asks you this question. You can make similar stories for all your experiences.

Also the way i like to do it is to respond to the environment. People talk about police/driving/licenses and i go into a DHV about how i lost my license, but what it has taught me. People talk about something social (like a club or bar they like) and i have a story about that.

The idea is that a common experience is bland, but with good story telling skills you can spice it up. The best part is the more down to earth the actual event the more likely they feel your story is true.

So take your experiences, analyze the questions people seem to ask you the most...take the memory thier questions evoke and make stories from them. before you know it you wont be able to shut up and everything comming out of your mouth will be intresting.

Also keep in mind that a big part of story telling is the delivery, slow down your words, say them clear and loud, and emote while you tell it. Also keep in mind that sometimes people will hook and sometimes they wont, if you get cut off to the point that you cannot instantly go back to your story then dont. When you have enough skills at story telling youll either be able to follow it with another story relavant to how you got cut off (say another perons story about something similar or different), or simply wont get cut off.

Hope this helps.


*******EDIT************EDIT***********EDIT********

First off I need to thank everyone whos contributed to this post, its because of you guys that it has become what it is.

I feel responsible to give back to this community the way it gave to me when I first joined, however to do that I need to have people follow the underlined rules.


There is something i need to address. Some people have been comming here and not following the flow of this topic. This post IS ONLY about getting help with DHV STORIES. If you want help with this i need to be clear about what i need from you guys to do this, as some people are not following the directions i posted.

1)Read at least my first post, the best thing to do would to be to read all the posts in this topic before asking for help/posting.

2)Post 1-2 PARAGRAPHS of your story the way you would VERBALLY tell it. I dont mind if you explain a bit or have some pertanent questions, but the body of the post should be your story.

3)Do use PARAGRAPHS, PUNCTUATION, and proper spelling when possible. This not only makes it easier for me to sort it out, but helps you organize your thoughts while writting it and later if you go back to it.

So from now on guys, i will ask a mod to delete posts that are not on topic (and will not respond to them), also i may chose to ignore posts that are run-on or do not use any paragraphs or puncuation. I intend on offering the highest quality help i can provide and i need people to follow some guidelines for me to achieve it, thanks for understanding.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:50 pm 
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Ah this is some quality stuff, thanks rome-EO

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no problem.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:30 pm 
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could you provide the link to that post Rome-EO ? is he still offering help with dhv stories?


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