Over the past week have sent out 35 messages to girls on plenty of fish and only 2 have replied.

Some are still unread but many read or read and deleted. Not sure where I am going wrong all my messages are not copying and paste. I usually tailor it around what they put in their profile.

It figures a unattractive girl messages me first. Hmm don't want to keep sending out messages until I can fix the problem

i wouldnt worry about it.. millions of dudes send them messages.. pretty sure by that time, the girl thinks shes all that and starts to ignore them. Thats why i dont write cuz the girls become stuck up by that point lol. You gotta find the gems though cuz theres still some cuties that probably dont get the millions of dudes writing them and will take time to look at it for a second.

What ive seen though, is some guys who have tons of girls on their friends list, but their pages appear like they are party guys/popular, girls will respond to that type.

Probably over reacted just moved to a bigger city with surrounding areas thought would have more respones than before. It all comes to to what is known already, you send out 50 messages no matter how great your most likely only going to get a max of 10-15 replies that is if your profile is amazing/creative message.

I have a few cuties that your speaking of that aren't so called 0's but range from 7 to 9 at least

[quote="tekryder"What ive seen though, is some guys who have tons of girls on their friends list, but their pages appear like they are party guys/popular, girls will respond to that type.[/quote]The op is talking about Plenty of Fish, not MySpace. One is an actual dating site that has no "friend" system the other is a former social site. Bit of a difference there. So your advice won't work in this case.

That is a very bad ratio.
Do the girls you send out messages to view your profile? If they do, do you have pictures up? If so what type of pictures? And what do you have in your "about me" section? Also what type of messages are you sending to these girls? I know you said you usually tailor them to their profile.

My guess is you are messing up with your profile more than anything.

Living in a big city and/or a heavily populated area will certain increase your chances of replies. Tho not by much. When I was more active with online game I can get up to 5 replies back for every 10 messages sent.

Alright so I have noticed theres been quite a few girls who have read the messages but never even looked at my profile. Of course there are the others who have read and looked at my profile. Even one unread deleted and no profile view.

An example of a message i send:

subject:hey clutz

message:
"and as for bad luck well I ran into a pole playing tag with my little cousins and got three cuts between my eyes and a big bruise. Than I fell off a house and got my arms all cut up. I dont know if im clumsy or just dont pay attention, but it hurts haha."

Ohh someone is a total clutz hopefully she has improved as the years have gone by Falling off a house should have nrought more than 3 cuts lol

Ohh ps 5 beers in your arms ehh well now someone was mighty thirsty

My profile has 8 pictures. One with a girl, 1 hiking and/rock climbing, up close one of me ... etc.
comments on every pic saying something witty



Interests:
city lights ,long walks on the beach/seawall, adventure
beauty, friendship ,romance
the perfect bottle of beer [ I have yet to find your existence] hiking, camping
gym


about me:

To sum me up confident, witty, know what I want in life, funny ... or attempt to be, and have sum form of integrity. Totally a nature person who hates being inside. I actively seek out adventure and excitement! Always looking for playful people to adventure with

Enough of me for the time being wouldn't want to bore you down with all the nitty gritty gossip details. Those come later if you earn enough points.

You must have passion! At this moment it can be with anything but unless there is something that drives your life, something real then move on to the next guy.

I try to always have an open mind.
I will on the other hand probably make fun of you and resort to name calling!

Message me if your up for that challenge as in keeping me interested
PS: If by chance you are dorky, adventurous, witty and a brat let's just be friends for now

First Date:

Why would I want to ruin the suprise! Its way more thrilling to keep the woman guessing and wanting more Maybe just maybe at the end of the night you may even get a kiss don't get your hopes up though.

I think it's possible that most girls, whether interested or not, don't look at profiles. They focus more on the content of the messages you're sending.

I once had my profile set to private back in the day when the numbers were rolling in hard.

Ohh and to add i am 20 and i messaged a few girls between 21 and 25 so ya don't expect many replies in the older department. THat was probably only 5 out of the 40 i have sent now

There is a high chance these girls have viewed your profile, but have select the option to not let you know about it. Ie stealth mode. But there are girls that won't even bother reading your profile if you send a bad message to them. This is similar to a girl not giving you a chance once you open her with a bad opener.
Your coming off too needy/aggressive.


Unless your the romantic type guy, take out the long walks on the beach, city lights, and romance. And put in more of your interests, like what type of music you like, etc etc.
There is no wow factor in your profile. In other words there is nothing that separates you from the other 50,000 guys on the site. It also doesn't say anything about who you are. I know you describe your self, but you did not show your self. You also didn't say what you are really looking for. Redo your profile, but do it more in a conversation/short story way. As you will have a better chance to hook them.
Not to be terribly rude, but this sounds very corny and lame. In a way it sounds like a kid piped up on sugar or something. I am not saying you can't show energy in your profile, but do it in a more control way.

Can you help me rewrite it you gave suggestions but not sure where to start? Criticize away I knew my profile needed improvement just didn't know how to go about it.

As for the message well shes having fun with it but I will keep that in mind

I usually start off my profile with some sort of an one line introduction. Then going into who I am without really using actual words to describe who I am, but use action instead. And let the actions tell the girl who I am. Then I would go into what sort of girl I am looking for. Again I don't really use exact words by more descriptions.

hopefully that helped you some. I can't tell you what to say as then it won't be your profile.

ol of course not i sort of know what you mean ... care to give a quick example or is it possible to see your profile?

I am failry skilled at being able to be creative just not entirely sure what your talking about.

As for the ration well now i have 7 girls engaged, not sure how many been messaged now.

Heres one thing I have wanted to know if you message older woman its more likely or not for them to respond in an online sense.

I can see in real life you have no idea how old one another are and by the time shes finds out shes already hooked anyway

Just sent out messages to some older ones because they were hot and no hurt in trying.

Maybe its this city its known for having really stuck up women

I have an idea for a new pic I could add. This weekend family is coming over and i can get a pic holding second cousin whos only 8 months old.

dietryin5,

Hope you are just joking about the baby/kid in photo.

If not, looks like it is not a good idea: tips-to-improve-your-online-game-vt40448.html

jurupa,

Buddy! You can't tease us like that, we're not chicks!

Would be nice if you can share some snippets of your profile. Imitation is the best way to learn and leads to original stuff later after adaptation...

That is how I learned anyway, first I copy and paste. Then change some stuff that isn't me and observe the working principles within. Over time, when I internalised it, I would try and apply the stuff that works which I read here...

But with nothing to start with for newbies, it is pointless to brag about a profile that we cannot see and imitate.