Hi guys,
I need help with this girl I am falling head over heels for.

I met her in my Chinese class. She is attracted to me because I am decent looking and say funny things in that class + I am doing well in that class. I made out (kissed) with her when she came over to do homework, but I had her leave because I wanted to fix my haircut. This was a few days ago. Since then, only one class has passed and we have been doing our own thing, besides a couple brief texts here and there. I think that she is just as into me as I am into her, but she is not showing it because she is probably more confident and aware and HOTTER than any of the girls I have ever been with. Examples: she keeps texts brief and spaced out, and refrains from sounding needy or sappy. Basically she is remaining challenging and intriguing to continue to keep me interested. I want to make her my girlfriend. How can I outplay her in this game? And can you guys recommend any routines or techniques to achieve the LTR?

This is the funniest thing I've ever read on these forums.

haha. I went to the barbor earlier that day, but he messed up, so I had to go to my friend's to fix it.

i know the feeling all too well.

cultivate the ability to walk away. remember there'll be another if this one doesnt work, and she'll probably be better.

I agree, but that doesn't address the point of the original post, haha. I've never been in a serious long term relationship, and I would appreciate any tips, advice, routines, techniques, or mindsets.

I'm no professional, so you don't need to take my advice, but I'm generally good at getting girlfriends, and then it kind of stops there.

But, in the words of other PUA's, it is arguable that you shouldn't make someone your GF until you have sex with them. Until then, begin casually dating her and other people.

If you add other people into the equation, you will keep your mind off of this one girl, while improving your game.
And, when the time is right you can either decide whether or not you still want to be in a LTR with this girl or if you want someone else.

And, I may be wrong, but you could just ask her...you haven't been rejected yet or anything, and you say the attraction is there.

I say give her a dose of her own medicine... don't show as much as interest act like u don't care at times

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Beware the possibility that she'll continue to ignore you like just as you plan to ignore her. You should lay on the charm and be C & F, get her laughing and go kino. Then go in for the kiss again. It shouldnt be too hard since you've already been there with her. Then you can get srs with her and let her know you care about her or whatever it is you're feeling

why did you need to fix your hair cut while you were making out with a girl? why? i dont think you can really write anything to convince me on this.. seriously i could have had my hair cut into a mullet but i dont think she would care if shes already making out with me... hair cuts wait no exceptions if shes gaming you play but her game but make her play your game. thats how it works. if a girl left me while i was making out with her to get her hair cut i would assume there not into me and not waste my time..... you want an ltr with her your gonna have to play her game long enough to get her attention and through her back into your game when you get the chance but i wouldnt say this is the time to be playing freeze outs with her... and i really hope you had the since to lie to her about why you were leaving...

She went to the bathroom and when she came back I was texting on my phone and I told her that I had to go to my homey's place. She didn't question me as to why. I was very discontent with the fade my barber gave me, it was uneven and wasn't looking sharp so I wanted to get it fixed by my homey asap. Also, my right eye was red. I'm a self-conscious person and both of these things made me extremely self-conscious. I was only comfortable being with her in dim lighting. I also didn't want to be with her too long because I didn't want things to get boring and my roomate was home.

I'm hanging out with her tomorrow night so we'll see whats up

i see.. well things are not as bad as what i thought.. what i would do in a circumstance like this would be: first call her dont text her its more ubrupt chicks dont expect that kinda thing anymore so shes out of her element, i get the idea that shes playing hard to get through her text messages right? anyways while you got her on the phone use atleast 1 good opener practice this before you call her you need to sound confident like your not relient on her choice. secondly come across as an alpha male, use some C/F this will help build comfort for her since shes out of her element. set up a day 2(ie: hang out at that moment) maybe back at your house and see if you can get your room mate out of there or something... maybe plan something cool or get some food before studying... the trick with the phone call is it has to sound spontanious. get her back to your house and go right back into what ever you were doing prior it was working well enough to get you into your c3-s1 area.

I feel like because we left so abruptly during the first night that I need to reestablish the comfort and rapport that I had going at that time, which I intend to do tomorrow evening. I'll probably take her out for some desert or something, and maybe find a nice nighttime area with a view to talk and get romantic. I agree with the phone call thing, it is definitely more confident and spontaneous whereas texting allows her to control the situation a bit more by ignoring or responding late and/or briefly. Do you have any tips or advice for phone calls though? Such as openers, routines, or anything that would help when it starts to feel awkward, because I am not so good on the phone. I am used to texting. The roommate thing won't be a problem because he is willing to take his laptop or book to the living room if I want privacy in the bedroom. I also did not describe the girl in much detail. She is 19, vietnamese, and lives at home (commutes to school). I think she isn't too promiscuous because she does not really have a large social circle besides old highschool friends and doesn't seem to have an outlet for parties/university life. I, on the other hand, live on campus and am in a fraternity. She seems like GF material, she is humble and not really cocky or big-headed, at least not yet... She probably doesn't realize how many guys find her very attractive. Lastly, I don't know the stages that you may be referring to with C3-S1, because I haven't read any PUA books.

This will be my first time really hanging out with since last wednesday when she came over. I think she may be a little shy and that it will be up to me to escalate anything. I want to get to the point where she is comfortable calling or texting me first, and being more talkative without me having to try

umm well basically the c3-s1 is part of an escilation ladder used in the community i was trying to find a diagram but was unsuccessful basically it just tells where at with the chick c = comfort building section... s = seduction section... a = attraction section... they all have 3 differnt parts i have a hard time remembering them word for word...

what i would say is if she doesnt really have a group of guys looking to lift her play it slow this will give you tons of comfterability but keep it interesting never really let her know what to expect when shes hanging out with you... dont push the romantic stuff to quick it might make her feel forced into having to make a choice... where if its just fun no presure things will lead alot more naturally and give you a much better chance with an ltr... i forget which pua i heard this from it was some one famous tho like myster or styler or tyler durdin, but heres a huge difference between males and females... Males want closeness now and space later when it comes to relationships.... Wemon want space now and closeness later. that doesnt mean you cant sleep with her or anything...

so what i would say for you to do is read up on some material on push pull and c/f (cocky funny) and any other atraction material you can use this material when ever your around other people

learn the comfort phase ie: pretty much being yourself with out displaying beta habbits

and then seduction just make sure your getting in enough foreplay especially if she doesnt seem premiscuious the foreplay is alot better to over due then under due.. you really dont want to have to go through any lmr unlock/freeze out techniques.

i cant really help you out with what to say on your phone call thats really based on your personality and will have to seem congruent with who you are..

what i can say before you call her you should call atleast 10 random people that you dont know and ask to speak to her... i know this sounds fucking crazy but just follow me... shes not going to be there and they will tell you that you have a wrong number i want you to appologize for the mistake but before you get off the phone with them ask them for a movie suggestion ( something in theaters ) get at least 5 successes with this. the reason behind this is i want you to get use to being on the phone in a some what uncomfterable situation and get your tone of voice right and mind set right... then call her maybe try to set up sort of day game situation maybe coffee.

New development.

I just got back from Chinese class. She didn't show up. She texted me saying shes feeling sick and I said something C/F and she didn't reply. Then, after class, one of the guys in the class whom I'm friends but not homies with asked me if I had gotten a text from Tinh (the girl) saying she was sick. I then realized she texted him and another guy, and all of us think shes hot.

So now, I don't know what to do. I was walking back from class sort of pissed off, not at her, but in general, that I thought that she was this sincere genuine girl and GF material, but what she did maybe suggests that she is maybe an attention-whore or manipulative or trying to play the field or whatever. I hope she isn't, because if she is, i don't want her anymore. Does this mean shes a validation whore?

What should I do now? With this new knowledge