I find it pretty weird to open a set using the regular opinion openers. It might be because I live in Holland, where the mindset is something like "Just behave normal, then you're behaving strange enough already". I think this makes gaming quite a lot harder, because when you stand out, you get some funny looks as wel.

But I did find two openers that just seem a bit more natural, girls won't be able to think "Why is he asking me this?" or "Wtf kind of a question is that", what would happen quite a lot in Holland, maybe anywhere outside the US.

The first one is this:
PUA: So what's so great about this place? Everyone told me and my friends this club was awesome...

Seconde one:
PUA: How's you're night? (This seems pretty AFC, I know, but that might be what makes it seem more natural, what I really like)
HB: It's allright.
PUA: How would you rate it on a scale of 1 to 10?

If she rates it high (usually happens) you can then neg her for being easily satisfied or for not having been to a lot of cool parties. If she rates low you can neg for being grumpy. If she rates something average you can neg her for giving a boring answer. This should all be done with a smile ofcourse. Anyway, lot's of ways the conversation can develop in after her answer.


I have fieldtested these (not a lot though), and especially the second one works quite well I must say. The first one is maybe more appropriate when you're in a place that has some unique features, or when it's just really boring in there.

So what do you guys think about these? Maybe any improvements? And I am especially interested if anyone else has some natural openers, the type that doesn't raise eyebrows.