I get that I have to do that, but my original question was: "how to do that"?
By disqualifying myself? - but doesn't that creaate more attraction
or maybe by doing hard rapport/comfort?

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V3nu

No no no, you need not disqualify. All you have to do is act like the hopeless child who can't take care of himself for shit so that it's like you need to rely on her to do things like help you fold your laundry and feed you. I do it all the time and it's actually quite easy for me because I really can't take care of myself for shit

hmmmmmm that's sounds pretty interesting, thanks.

but like if I'm in my college classroom (because that's where I mostly see her), what you can you do in that "hopeless child" attitude? Right now my imagination is not working....

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V3nu

Yo chief I have 2 questions to ask

In your opinion what would be the best book for me to mold my game around

And I think I saw you entered the community in high school and I'm currently a jr. In high school who Is having problems closing on girls (can't isolate). So what I would like your advice on is how to number close a girl in class, hall, etc.

Thanks

You know how David Deangelo says you should treat your target as if she were your bratty little sister? Treat a girl you want to LJBF like she's your super cool big sister. Supplicate freely, do favors for her, ask her for advice, etc.

Your imagination will start working again the more you think about this.

The Attraction Code by Vin DiCarlo, The Way of the Superior Man by David Deida
1. Have a conversation
2. Build rapport
3. "Give me your phone number; maybe we can hang out sometime"

Awesome, Thanks =)

Cheers

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V3nu

My question is how do you build rapport quickly enough to get a follow through on Day 2. I am very good at approaching, talking and even closing. But what I have noticed is that the girls who I spent the least amount of time with are the most difficult to when I follow up. Obviously girls that I am able to spend more time with are easy. If you can get a girl to go on an instadate you're rock solid.

But I don't always have the time to spend 20 to 40 min with a girl I approach on a say the subway. I can get them to give me a number and even talk on the phone. But day 2 in that situation has so far been elusive. And of course it is risky to go on dates with people you meet on the New York Subway! So I don't really blame them.

How can I build rapport faster in 5 or 10 minutes and get my follow through rate up, ideas?

assume rapport and time bridge your number close

Met this one girl today and she gave some desperate/lonely signs.

For one thing she was all over me, it's like I didn't even have to try, complimenting me and shit. I still brought out the C&F on her and she called me mean and the usual stuff while laughing. We had the same class after wards and she asked me to sit next her and I was thinking WTF. But the signs idk.

She's like a 7-8/10, and I don't know if I should take advantage of her LOL??

"Take advantage?" What the hell are you talking about? She's not drunk or anything, is she? If you still think of sex as something that you are wrongfully TAKING from a woman, you've got some serious work to do.

Anyways, if you find her attractive, bone her. If you don't find her attractive, don't. It's not that difficult of a decision. Your question belongs in the Newbie Questions section of the forum, by the way, and not here.

Where does he go to get that "work"?

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Walk Hard

The seduction community has a plethora of information. If you seek, then you will find (as long as you don't get distracted by the flashy marketing from Mystery as you so did, magnum45).

For developing a healthy and nonjudgmental mindset about sexuality, I recommend material from David Shade and Johnny Soporno.

I keep getting mixed messages from this white girl about whether she's attracted to me at all or not. I setup a date which seems to be a pretty good idea to her initially. We text back and forth and I never send her anything unless she replies; she shit tested me by responding to the actual date message 5 hours later (might have been a bad sign to begin with). I kept it a low priority on the day of the actual date by texting a joke to her (not even mentioning the date) then I get dead silence, nothing, no response, thus no date.

I saw her again on campus (Monday) and she was avoiding eye contact with me, I didn't play the victim, I thought I did a good job on everything... the only thing that occurred to me as something I did wrong was no kino... I can't really pinpoint what I did wrong other than that... maybe she just doesn't like Asians? I mean, is that HONESTLY a good enough reason to NOT go out with a guy?

I don't know how much at fault I am for not developing kino; but this is the first dead-end I've reached and it's kind of an eye-opening experience that you won't even cross a girl's mind (I've never experienced this kind of feedback before, normally the past girls are little more receptive to what's going on and flirt a little). Maybe I'm thinking too negatively, but I'm trying to think of what I did wrong so I can build upon my past experience. I'm reaching a gray area I can't pull any knowledge from. I wonder if I should even bother with her anymore, I want to rebuild a friendship at least...

I'm hanging out with more girls now (white ones horray!) but they give a lot of shit about Asian guys and it instinctively puts me on the defensive. I'm trying to fix that, but it's hard because nobody has the same experience as us. It'd be nice to have somebody to relate to other than the forums, some of my friends think I'm crazy (I noticed I'm hanging out with them less because they don't take any risks other than studying on a Saturday night), but in the end they give me mad respect which I'm actually enjoying.

Anyhow, I bounced my disappointment back by getting another girl's number and setup a "date" (she's taken, but I was totally in a "don't give a fuck" mood and I can sense her attraction, she's Asian and hot and told me her "chest was sore" heh) and I'm going to try get another one tomorrow. I mean, I'm improving, numbers are easy now (this took a whole month to do), but dates with white women just seem difficult. I'm also throwing events in November to establish myself as a leader. Suggestions? Comments?

Luky,
As I've said before, game is a bit different for Asian men in America. You have to be more indirect is some ways, and direct in some other ways.

If you actually want to use the word "date" and have it work out for you, you have to be the most alpha fucker you can be. It's easier, however, to frame your day 2s as something like just "hanging out," or having mutual friends involved while you isolate later on.

Kino is really important here. If you don't kino escalate, you'll be grouped in as just another asexual Asian guy. Focus on being a sensual being. If you want, you can even look up chakras and learn to open up your sacral chakra.

I think, for us Asian guys, we need to be verbally more indirect and be more direct with our state and everything else that's nonverbal. However, there are times when you must bust out the dirty dirty dirty talk.

That girl you mentioned first may have flaked for any number of reasons. In your situation, just maintain your positive and sensual frame and keep interacting with her as if nothing happened. Rule of thumb: Ignore noncompliance and reward compliance. Also, if a white chick isn't into Asian guys at all, you still may be able to have a shot with her, but she's going to have a really tough and nonsexual shield up from the get-go. This isn't the case with the girl you mentioned because she agreed to go on a date with you initially.

Next time you arrange for an isolated day 2, call the girl about 5 or 10 minutes before the agreed upon meeting time to tell her that you're going to be a couple minutes late. This does many useful things:
1. It functions as a DHV because you are showing that you are busy with potentially more important things in your life.
2. It acts as a form of "undercover confirmation" (as Vin DiCarlo puts it) because you're finding out whether or not she's going to show up without even asking her.
3. You're making her wait for you, which basically forces her to INVEST a little more in you, increasing attraction from an Adam Lyons point of view.

Overall, I think you're doing great because you're moving forward instead of dwelling on this specific girl like a lot of guys do.