I am completely with you on that one and I agree with the mid-sex crisis.

I'm a senior in High school and I noticed Junior year (when I was an AFC/Regular guy) that this girl I was talking to for days telegraphed interest but never did anything past talking. Then, this guy comes and talks / kino's her for 2-3 days and RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME he kisses her on the cheek sensually and he gets her number.

Right then and there I learned the importance of Kino escalating to avoid LJBFing.

Telegraphing interest in her with kino - She'll be your girlfriend/ ends up liking you THAT way.
Telegraphing interest in her WITHOUT kino = Friendzone/ you're being a nice guy/ she can tell you how much fun she had fucking her boyfriend last night.

In essence, if you do not pull the trigger, you'll end up to be "The guy she can tell anything to"

Yes, she can TELL you anything, she will never want to DO anything with you.

Hah, and thanks.

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well see i pulled the trigger too early.
and i told you guys its already over - friend crap blah blah and i THINK she's getting with my friend who got this other prego but he can drive woopie haha
anyway, like i said im back to my old awesome self without on my mind (kinda)
but id still love to play mind games with her as a side project if you guys got ideas

the following is TOUGH LOVE. We say it cause it;ll help you in the long run:

all due respect, man. but grow up. why would you want to play mind games with a blown set? that is RLY afc. NEXT that HB, and move ON! you got time for a side project? how about go to the mall and sarge, read up on technique, work on your inner game, etc.

and NO, you did NOT pull the trigger. that target was primed and ready but you opened the barrel, poured out the bullets and the proceeded to bang your golden opportunity over the head with the butt of the gun until it was dead.

please re-read what we said about pulling the trigger and see how it is DIFFERENT from what you did. only then will you appreciate what you did wrong and know how to score the next time.

And a note on not driving. I know, little bro, it sucks. been there, done that. i went from HS straight into college and worked my way through it. took the bus and was too poor to buy a car until halfway through college. But dont use it as an excuse. You were at a party, and u see her on at least a semi regular basis at HS right? even though you dont drive you still manage to get places dont you? You are SO limiting yourself into thinking somehow driving and having wheels will make you better with women. no correlation.

fact is, that girl was in the bag, and you could hav had that girl like putty in your hands, be banging that sexy soft angel weekly. right now even. but we all live and learn.

the only mind games you're playing now are in your own head. analyze what you did wrong, fix it, and go out there and score!

We all crashed and burned many times in the beginning. Even the most hardass PUA was probably once were you were. I wish someone sat me down and had this talk with me when I was in HS. So here you go

much love.

nermob

PS this forum is an excellent resource. please post, post, post, theres many people here with much more experience and game here that are eager to help. youre off to a good start!

Woah nermob, woah.

Yeah, I agree he did NOT pull the trigger rather he butted her down.

But, cut him some slack, he's only in high school.

And, yes, driving IS a big factor.

Girls perceive you as more on your feet/ responsible/ easy access/ can go with you to the movies without mommy picking them up and dropping them off all the time.

I noticed a 90% increase in me getting girls as I got a car.

Even when I had girls, my relationship with them DETERIORATED due to the fact that I had no way to interact with them outside of school.

Sure, if you want to just talk to them/ hold their hand, then, yes, wheels don't matter - but if you want real sex/ real relationship/ girls to REALLY like you as a MAN then you DEF need a car.

I'm dead broke and I work a minimum wage job but I'm riding in a nice 80k mile 1999 V6 Accord with EVERY upgrade possible on it. Cars aren't 5000000000 dollars, it only requires, what, 4 grand to get a NICE car?

Also, now that he has no interest in her, playing the "game" with her would actually be good practice. A blown set will leave you, but she's a blown-set-friend, so she's still around and good for practice.

Try pick up techniques, lack of interest, negging, kino, etc and see HOW she responds WITHOUT expecting her to actually bang you one day. (But hey it might happen)

I've improved my game by gaming girls I've already fucked it up with when I was an AFC, and 50% of the time (now that I'm much better at this) I've got them to like me again.

Keep trying Right, you're ALREADY much better than most guys SIMPLY because you're taking my advice/ the forum's advice.

Tell you what, send me a message and I might be able to help you out with some PUA vids from Mystery.

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Oh, and, by the way, pulling the trigger doesn't mean opening up to her/ letting her know you like her, pulling the trigger is kiss/fuck-closing... o.O

I didn't see you attempting to kiss/ fuck her anywhere.

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nermob, i know what you mean, don't get me wrong.
this would be totally different if it was a street pickup.
this is high school where i see her everyday, and im close friends with her friends, and often hangout. so i have to make this as least awkward as can be, and still rock shits ;D

AND SORRY FOR WORD CHOICE. i did not mean pull the trigger in PUA language of closing. i meant, shifting phases of comfort attraction and blah blah too soon or abruptly.

also, i never crutched myself with a car, infact she lives 3 miles from me and like i said, ive ran to her house to hang once "stopping by on a workout"
and ive got more than enough friends to drive me around because im a "leader of men". i was being sarcastic that "hes so cool because he has a car"

but i'm glad badolzen sees my thinking. she can easily become a friend/test dummy now

thanks guys/ much love.

Definitely.

I try to keep it as least awkward as possible with EVERY girl I hate, cause I have to see her EVERY damn day so yeah...

Good experiments are always a plus.

You CAN'T lose on a blown set.

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Another ONEITIS averted. Good job PUAs.

yes indeed. and i cant wait til you guys get out of highschool, youre gona LOVE IT! keep it up bros, i wish i was were you guys are when i was 17ish.

Haha that's when I'm expecting to PUA.

At the moment my looks alone I get 20 chicks chasing me. (I started the boy band prinsciple with some cheerleaders now all girls want me 'cause my value is perceived as higher now - don't mean to brag)

I think last night I was txting like 8 chicks at the same time lmao. (All hot / wanted me ofc txting fat chicks doesn't count)

College here I come bitchhh

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right right - and you/i gotta remember that pua techniques are formed and aimed for women age 25-35, because thats when the brain is mature and ripe ;D
and any failures i have here, are not completely my fault - it may be that they are still too immature "oh i need to get to know him better", but in college its game on

Lol. I wanted to kill myself a week ago because I pussied out at the last fucking second. I was going to get a KC 100% the girl was into me. So then i tried to make up by and bumping into her, and getting pissed about it and her friend dragged her away (because she didn't see the smile I flashed, and thought I was serious) leaving me there... Now the attraction is gone and I have to find a way to isolate her.

This is so true.

If you neg a girl who's pretty but young (Didn't get hit on by many guys) she might think you're just an asshole. etc

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and if you move to fast, they get scared -_-
but soon they will realize that youre not like other guys and that your method is amazing and want moar!! haha

im forming a bit of a theory here. this is really for you high schoolers, and not really my demographic target obviously (im in mid twenties), but based on my memory of highschool id say that these girls won't be able to take very much negging (non at all in many cases), and it's really more about you social proofing yourself, indirectly flipping all those attraction switches on in her BEFORE you even talk to her. then just go in for the kill.

in short, go easy on the negs and c/f.

any thoughts?