I thought a nice, socially-acceptable initial kino would be the classic move of taking the woman's hand and kissing it. It's important that when you present your hand, to keep eye-contact with the woman, because looking down at your hands would be another way of "asking permission", per se.

Does this send the right messages, though? Is it somehow too supplicating?

And now, here's one that I thought of to get the woman touching you: when it comes time to retrieve her email, take out a pen, search around for a piece of paper, and then give her your forearm so that she can write her email on there, because you're conveniently missing paper.

This is another one I don't know about. Body marking is a sign of ownership over the body, and maybe I'm reading far too much into things, but would that send the signal of some sort of supplication as well?

If these work, I think they'd be great ideas.

Hey, I think that now a days the chivalrous hand kiss as a greating or even as an intial kino my come off a little creepy at first. I have though used it later on as a good bye when things have gone well. Also, used it during kino escalation and as a way to build sexual tension.

For the email on the skin, i think, would be a little daunting. Reason being that if the HB is going to give it to you, she may not want every Joe to see it. If you can get it to work though, let me know, because i just use my cell or snag a napkin.

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I was planning to use the hand kiss thing as a farewell after the first encounter (get the email, kiss hand, leave). And then leave cold without any words, with sort of a dismissive body language.

here's what I'm thinking:

Hand kiss = pull
Leaving cold = push (if I emphasize it enough)

I don't know if it's creepy as long as, like you said you did, use it as a close for a session that went well.

i vote creepy. of all the people i know, i can only see a couple of workmates doing it. and they're the creepy ones.

Hand kissing=creepy.. asking for email =creepy...

Who asks for emails... come on bro.. what are you going to do email her ur resume.. Don't kiss her hand until you have taken her out at least once, because you never know how girls interpret these things. it can be viewed as an act of desperation. Your better playing it safe, and just try pecking her on the llips. and leave right away after it (as if you always do it to say goodbye to her). pretend to go for the cheek and last second peck her lips.. they usually like it, becase its a surprise and at the same time, your not doing something that they might not be comfortable with like making out.. I dont know if you already do this or not but its much better than kissing her hand, as you'll come off as a normal guy who's confident enough to make a move to show he's interested, but isn't a horny schmuck that is looking for ass..

I think I read this on a FR somewhere. The guy did the hand kiss thing but kissed his OWN hand. I think this would be a better way to go.

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asking for email is creepy? Oh, come on.

yeah i vote creepy and this HB10 in my school told me of this guy who did it and it ruined the mood and she was making fun of him in class and say that it was old fashion and this other HB8.5 that i used to be friends with say it was creepy and this other HB7.8 told me friend that it was weird. So i don't recomend doing it mostly on younger HB

i never asked for a girls email to write it on my skin. But back when i was in high school girls always wrote on each other and themselves hands with hearts and such.

I mean i know some girls like writing on people. Back in high school I always hand random girls get my attention so they can write on my hand or something and I would always end up getting her number at the same time after she drew on my hand or something, she would write her number afterwards on my hand while talking to her after her little art project.

i never asked for a girls email to write it on my skin. But back when i was in high school girls always wrote on each other and themselves hands with hearts and such.

I mean i know some girls like writing on people. Back in high school I always hand random girls get my attention so they can write on my hand or something and I would always end up getting her number at the same time after she drew on my hand or something, she would write her number afterwards on my hand while talking to her after her little art project.

yeh writing on your skin is weird. but a note on highschool: yes back when i was in school i had girls ask to write on my hand. now looking back i realize it was an ioi. ao i guess in HS, writing on hand means i like you. so if you get a girl to do that, she might think "hey im writing on this guys hand so i must like him". thoughts?


but yeah past highschool i dnt think this will work or come off as dhv.

I would very much like a MPUA's thoughts on this. One of the big guys.

The answers in this thread are leaning towards "No, not a good idea", but there's been absolutely no legit reasons given as to why not.

I may not be a master at this, but I know there's no way in fuck that kissing a girl's hand after a cool conversation is "creepy."

the MPUAs got that way by thinking of something, going out and trying it 500 times, and reporting back.

just a suggestion. if your going to have her write it on your arm buy a pen with ink that can erase with water easy. have her write it down then grab a piece of paper or napkin write it down on that, go to the bathroom and wash it off and go out and continue sarging.