Will have to try this opener out will post results.sounds good smooth

now this i like. if i end up going to the mall today, i'll test and report.

I love all "Could you help me out..."-routines like this one.
If they are well thought threw, question or things you wish for the girl
to help you with will be a great hook. And as They Call Me Smooth showed it easy to get som DHV in it. And also turned the Value-factor around.

Of course you all on this forum should feel free to express what you
think of stuff that is written here, but Im not shitting you when I honestly can say
that some of most stupid shit written here - has inspired me to pull of some really good stuff. And fun to.

So all Im saying is.
Dont be to serious all the time.
Rember to have fun...cause it just a game.

And, Im gonna try to do the originalversion of this just to see what happens and learn from it.

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Vino, vedi, vici.
I drank some wine, I saw her, I conquered

for fun:
please do, and tell us. if you do it 5 times, tell us all 5 outcomes. don't just share the best one and give us false hope just to prove a point

my predictions:
HB9-10: crash/burn
HB7-8: flake
HB5-6: your target audience

lol

Will do!

Just for fun...

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Vino, vedi, vici.
I drank some wine, I saw her, I conquered

I'm still not feeling this as a strong opener, even with the modification. Maybe it's because trying it the previous cheating girlfriend way left a bad taste in my mouth, but I feel like this violates one of the primary rules of the opener: That you're not showing interest in the target, you're simply using a statement or question to initiate interesting conversation. Furthermore, you need to be different than every other guy in the room and every other guy who's hit on this girl before. Even though it's done with style and in a creative fashion, think about it: What you've penultimately done is walk up to a girl, tell her she's hot, and ask if you can take her picture. That's not unique and it immediately gives her the upper hand in the relationship. You're enforcing her self-sense of social dominance. Even though it may work on occasion, I'm not a fan yet. However, the vacation modification is much better.

First off how many HB10's do you think have men walking up to them asking to take a photo with them? This isn't something so common that it's normal for them. Second, it's an opener. The first words out of your mouth don't need to be the end all of perfection. It's meant to open a dialog with her and it does just that. It might not be the perfect opener but I have no doubt it will work.

And there is nothing wrong with making a woman feel good about herself, just ask long as she doesn't look down on you. Thats why I suggested using DHV in this to make sure she doesn't do it for pity.

But in the end I agree, it's not an opener I would use myself. I just wanted to point out that it wasn't completely junk and with a little adjustment it was usable.

Smooth, I'm with ya. Like I said in an earlier post on this topic, its all about practice, and if it gets a lady speaking with you, the game is on. I guess I'm just saying that I would never use it when I have a plethora of other openers that can be utilized. But I agree with you. Happy Sarging.