Hey guys need your input, I will try to make it short, met a girl at club exchange numbers talk to her for few months,when on 2 dates but no kiss, she tells me she is not looking for relationship and i told her me neither, I think I am in her friend zone bez every time i say some think like u look sexy or compliment her over the ph she does not except it and say oo its not true or may be it bez of this bla bla, at 1 point we were talking over the phone every other day for half hr or so.

I failed to show high value to her and it just felt like i was puting more efforts then she was or care too, so out of blue i stop calling her,I recived 4 miss call from her with voice messages showed intrest and concern, but i dint care because I was over her, last night i got her 5th call which i dint pick up, but i dont know why i text her today "hey wht up, i just got back yesterday sorry missed your call, to which she reply where did u go. i text her back "out of country long story, lot to catch up, no reply back yet.

i feel like i push my self back into the hole, she is hb8 and if any thing i would like to have a f close to all this may be thats y i text her, wht should i do?
by the way this is all before i even knew what pua is or how u can show dhv, so my past is haunting me wht can i make out of this?[/b]

First, from now on write like an adult.

Second, couple pointers.
- You DLV'd your self completely when you started complimenting her like a AFC (newsflash: She's knows she's hot).
- She however countered by DLV'ing herself when she called back 5 times. Your luck, cause I think you both evened out there.
- NEVER LIE! Get yourself back on track by doing some C&F about going out of country and using a line like "I had to goto the Artic Circle, Santa needed my help" If she presses it, just say you were too busy with other stuff in your life (DHV).
- As for f-closing, it's simple. Apply the basics! Learn the MM stages and PHASE SHIFT ROUTINES! That's all I've got to say.

Oh Lord I'm going to analyze what happened
A: Month's is way too long you should have been kissing her the first night you met or the first date

A: Her saying she's not looking for a relationship may be true she could very well want a friend with benefits. But at this point your deep in the friend zone otherwise she wouldn't have said it. Stop complimenting her telling her she's sexy her rejecting the compliment means she' doesn't want to hear them from you.
A: Have you nothing else better to do? On top of that your having conversations that lead to nothing
A: You saw it was going nowhere you laid off Good. She was calling multiple times wondering what you were doing "she had developed a sense of lost"(meaning she was thinking about you)
You made the mistake of apologizing for not returning her calls. Then you told her the reason was you were out of the country---at this point you lost it completely she knows the reason you didn't call was because you couldn't and you would have if you were able.

You showed all the nice guy signs women hate. Stop being so readily available to her. We want a man to take charge. At this point an F-close may be out of reach and out of site.

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EasyLover that's some Damn Good stuff!!
All of what u said in the analysis is true
wanabepua you showed all the I'm a good boyfriend material signs too early. My Advice would be to move on to the next girl befpre u develop the one- itis. She's going to have to see that other women are interested in you. And don't return her phones calls unless she says something worth something. And finally stop being a nice guy

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hey guys thanks a lot and easylover you r right, thanks for your honest input, your coments were some what of a eye opner.

I am just finding it hard to be rude/jerk... or i am trying hard not to be a nice guy, I would have never text her but i felt bad and guilty of ignoring some 1 like that.

Now question is, what should i do from here, she i am sure expecting a call from me and hell no I am not going to call her, what should I do incase she calls me.

If she's calls you let her leave a message. Call her back the next day or two days later and if she' ask what took u so long to return my call. Tell her you were busy with hanging with your friends.And while on the phone I wouldn't give her no more than 10mins tops end the convo first don't be rude to her. And not being a nice guy doesn't mean you have to be rude or a jerk. Just don't be concern with putting her as a top priority you're busy you have other things going on don't give her anymore compliments unless she earns them first. Now in a few days or so if you really feel at the point she's stalking you with the phone calls tell her to come meet you somewhere or make her come help you cook dinner

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Ahh, the friend zone. I had my own table in that restaurant for a long time. First off, friends are great if that's what YOU want. However, it sounds like you want some sex. Can you get sex from her? An uphill battle at this point. You'd have to be less available, increase your value and social proof, and find a way to build attraction and arousal from a gal who is sooo comfortable with you.

You may be better off at this point using her as a pivot--hanging out as friends and using her as social proof/DHV to land other women. The real PUAs say there's nothing better to getting woman B than having them see you with woman A. I think using her as a pivot is the way to go, IMHO.