HB: I have a boyfriend
PUA: Ok, but no crossing swords

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I've read two pages of this and now everything makes sense. LOL.

It's like this chick I had over...I probably could've friggin scored but I'm too kind hearted to be a bf destroyer, but if I had read this thread beforehand, I would've owned her. Oh well, when she gets back i'll game again haha.

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In my experience, I agree with the method of running some kind of "Perfect Boyfriend " routine if I feel that a routine/BF destroyer is necessary. In a lot of instances...

HB: I have a boyfriend
PUA: That's pretty obvious

HB: What makes you say that
PUA: Just the way you carry yourself. I can tell that this guys perfect. Just by looking at you I can tell he buys you flowers everyday, gives you everything you could possibly desire, and never starts any arguements. I certainly can't compete with that.

HB: Well no sometimes he's mean....etc. ect

The whole phychology is so that she talks him down and not you. You can use a lot of false disqualifiers here too. I've done a lot of BF destroying in my day, so it's one of few.

Though in response to a lot of people saying it's immoral to get a girl to cheat on someone, I can see a lot of different views.

1. The girl is willing to cheat, so if that's the case she's obviously not happy or fulfilled anyway. (Though we're using pickup and phychology, so maybe it's not so fair

2. If it's something serious, I just walk. There's no point in destroying a marraige/commited relationship so I can have her for a night or two. Plus some pissed off husband with a tire iron can suck, though I've never personally known anyone with that problem.

But who cares. It is what it is. To each his own.

A lot of the time a straight, solid game are the best boyfriend destroyers. There's a HB at this club I work for, and I have full knowledge that she's been in a relationship for a fairly long period of time, and I was able to pick her up with straight game. Among other instances.

I really wish all of you would never go after women who are taken. Would you like it if the woman you loved and cared for was being hit on ?

What if, one day, you have a silly fight with your girlfriend/wife/fiancee and then when she is out on her day, she is a bit sad and depressed about the silly fight.

Then comes a guy taking advantage of her in a weak emotional state and she makes a mistake. She cheats on you and cries and cries about it and begs you to forgive her, she wishes she never did it. She made a mistake, she was drunk or she was sad or she was whatever.

Would you like that?

No. So don't do it. In the past 1 month, I have had -2- beautiful women want to go out with me. One of them was a 9 rating, a blonde, 41 year old MILF. Long blonde hair, wonderful tits and body, wow. I am only 25, but I am smart and cultured. So I could talk to her about the arts, learning new languages, music, tourism, etc. I asked her out and she wanted to go with me. I gave her my number and then she told me she was married. I didn't want to be mean, so I just politely excused myself because I had already established I had to go somewhere prior to this moment. You know what she did? She spammed my number for the next 2 weeks, at all times, even times like 1 AM in the morning.

I said no. The other was a 21 year old HB9, who was visually dissappointed I excused myself when she told me she was married. She accepted my invitation to hang out that same day and wanted to get to know me. She even pointed down the path she was walking on and asked if I was going this way too. I said no.


You just don't do that to another man. Period. There are 18929382943824 single women on earth, pick those.

Absolutely agreed

Forget the forum, I'm new to the game. Almost everytime I've tried talking to a girl, and I've talked to her long enough for her to slip those dreaded words "I've got a boyfriend", I've been gutted. Especially since I know some of them don't have boyfriends (these are girls I know before I go up to them).

I fully agree with the people who say if a girl is in a relationship, then don;t be the dickhead who ruins it for both her and him. But these BF destroyers are brilliant for the ones you know are lying. I think the advice earlier about guaging where the comment slipped will tell you whether she's lying or not. Just wish I could get that part. Ignoring the comment is pretty good too.

One I've tried before (wasn't too bad when I used it):

Her: "I've got a boyfriend..."
Me: "And I’ve got a girlfriend...sorry I thought we were showing off to each other..."

Pretty crap. So keep the BF destroyers coming!

If you know the girl is lying, and she told you she had a boyfriend, then that means she already doesn't like something about you. She's basically saying "Get away from me now"

Maybe you need to change your appearance, your clothes, your body language, tone of voice, and the situation and approach you used to initiate contact with her

Okay here is an advanced hypnotic technique that I have only used once to pick up a girl with a boyfriend but I have used it countless times with hypnotic subjects for countless practical reasons, now whats great about this is it is NOT nlp(but becomes lethal with the addition of nlp techniques) anyways it is a waking technique like nlp that no state of trance has to be induced. Okay so like you all already know we have different parts of the brain that perform different functions, It has been experimented on with electrodes causing specific parts of the brain to recall a memory or say something that makes zero sense in the current situation just because that is were that specific information is stored. Allow me to point out that this will only work if the girl is truly attracted, happy, and in love with her current boyfriend. Okay this is simple do a little bullshiting with her talk about how the brain works etc, it doesn't even have to be true just say whatever you are saying like you really believe it. Explain to her how interesting the mind is and say here I will give you and example go ahead and close your eyes for me really quick, Okay here is when it all happens. Ask to think about how much she loves her boyfriend and ask her to picture the exact location in her brain this picture of him that she is seeing comes from and to put her finger on it. Good now say Watch this now I want you to picture the person that you hate the very most, notice how it is comming from a completely different location, now go ahead and point there. (Okay now the intricate part you move the picture of her boyfriend into the second location and a picture of you into her boyfriends original location) Ask her to go ahead and move the picture of her boyfriend into the location where the other person is that she hates and althought it is different to begin to feel the same emotions towards him that she feels for that other person. Now go okay now just to finish proving my point lets take a random person we can just use me for the example and I want you to put my picture in this spot right here(touch the original spot where her boyfriend was) And say now just let me know as you Realize all those feelings you used to feel for your boyfriend start to be transferring to me and even doubling and becoming stronger and stronger........etc. etc. etc. u get the point use a few more embedded commands to leave her boyfriend in that place and keep you where u are and u are in the panties.

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Oh and for the record I personally hated this guy because he was an asshole to one of my friends, normally if someone is in a good, committed relationship let them be in it don't fuck up peoples lives. The arguement that the girl wants to anyways holds no weight because by tactfully using the right words, right tones, and right gestures I could effectively convince Osama Benladin to come out of his cave, does that mean he actually wants to? Absolutely not.

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Before i studying this pua shizzle, i always said...

HB: I have a boyfriend
ME: That you always drive in a ferrari, doesnt say you'r not aloud to drive in a lamborgini;)

Than starts giggling...
And thinks... Hmmmm.... That's true(H)

Sick post xfman. Gonna prove useful for some stuff.


~Blend

Although this is off the topic, whenever a girl asks me "Why don't you have any tattoos?" I always respond

"You don't put a bumper sticker on a Lamborghini"

Always gets a laugh.

True but let me quote Mystery when he said, out of all these women...How many are healthy? Are Single? No Kids? Not Married/In Relationship? Stable? FEW.

If I could tell you for every time a girl used the "I have a BF" as a excuse to men worldwide, I'd make it rain.

This convo always makes me remember Ice Cube's line on an NWA song:

Girl: Oh I Have a boyfriend
Ice Cube: Bitch stop lyin!

im not going to write out an intire rutine but ill give you the concept you have to do your own work and make it congruent with your person

the idea involved is actually to get them takling about there boyfriend and bring up qualities that are actually awfull ie: neediness, rude, cheating, clingy, if he blows her off, ect.. the key point is to hit one of these things that obviously drives her crazy and then keep talking about it while you keep gaming her... so the rutine goes something like this


pua: blah blah blah
hb: i have a boyfriend
pua: oh i bet your boyfriends "soooooooooo cool"(say this part a little over exagerated and fake) i bet he calls you all the time... im suprized hes not talking with you right now... he must reallllly trust you (say this condisending like) blah blah blah ... basically drag out all the bad parts of being in a relationship... all the while continuing your a2 fase and trying to process into your a3... and move into your c1-c3 and focus heavily on s1 because during s2 you might experiance some lnr during s2 if you can get to s3 well i think that really speaks for it self

HB: i have a boyfriend
PUA: i have a goldfish
HB: what?
PUA: i thought we were talking about things that dont matter