I haven't read what anyone has said here, but this is my reply to what another Indian fellow asked me earlier this year.

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Well, I'm gonna be honest with you here.

1) Sometimes, girls (and people in general) can be downright racist, thats something your just going to have to deal with being of a certain ethnic decent. A few of my buddies have the same problem.

2) I have a lot of girls that are just very close friends, and coming directly from their mouths, alot of Indian men creep them out. Now this isn't because they are racist, its because a large group of Indian as well as Arab and other ethnic men approach girls in a very direct and threatening manner. I've seen countless men of ethnic decent just walk up behind girls and start dancing. And thinking from a woman perspective, I wouldn't enjoy some guys dick rubbing on my ass if I have never even seen and can't see his face. This of course is a stereotype, because people of all races do it. But it just so happens that a large population of ethnic men act this way. This again, is something that you really can't stop and are just going to have to deal with.

3) Having all this being said, you can still try approaching in clubs and bars, your just going to have to work around these things. Try a more subtle approach perhaps. Maybe with a group surrounding so you appear less "threatening" to them.

4) Try gaming women in other areas, maybe the stereotypes in bars and clubs are just too much for you to overcome at this level of your game. Go and game girls in other places, there are plenty of females to go around and not all of them want to be gamed in a bar. Once your shining with confidence and have 2 girls walking into a club with you (that you met in another place), you'll be able to do it, I assure you of that.

5) Like the others above me said, its a matter of confidence and inner game as well.

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I have the same problem being black sometimes, and you just have to brush that dirt off your shoulders man. For a while, I had an inner conflict. I'd go out of my way to prove that despite being black, I'm still educated and a gentleman, so I'd stay away from slang, talk the most proper english that I could, have complex conversations, etc, and I found that it turned the girls off who were interested in me.

Why? Because the reasons why they were attracted to me as a black man were all thrown out of the window. Just like there are certain things about Asian women that attract me, certain things about Hispanic women, black women, etc that attract me, and they're all different.

The key is to just be yourself and whoever likes you, game them, whoever doesn't, they're losing out on a fun, optimistic guy.

As for female friends talking about creepy guys, my friends say the same thing. Even some of my middle eastern female friends. Most girls don't like that, but you don't have to be one of those dudes. If you approach where she can see you with a smiling face, you'll increase your chances by a long shot.

I've seen a lot of guys comment that it's not good to approach on the dancefloor but it works for me more often than not. I get eye contact and dance in rhythm with them where I'm from, and judging from their response, I'll make my way over. Another thing I do is put my hands in the air and say, "I won't touch you, I promise. (wink)" If they see that you're dancing for fun and not trying to bust a nut in your pants then they're usually cool with it.

High five on that one bro! "I won't touch you, I promise", or "Don't worry, it's fine." I had a girl say the second one to me on the dancefloor.

So true about the dancefloor and dancing in rhythm. It's all just too easy, and the boys that don't like dancefloor game, go get dancing lessons, even just to build your rhythm. Eye contact, slow approach, I second each of these, they work everytime for me. I opened a three set on the weekend and danced with each of the girls. Even did a kitty lick with one of them after five minutes of conversation.

At the end of the dance, I find it a nice treat to teach the lady a handshake, they love it and you can get a good laugh.

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I am Indian as well but I don't see it as downfall. Sure I have doubts before because of my background but get you get over it. Unless your sweating curry or wearing a pug, your chances are as good as anyone elses. The only time it matters is if you let it matter. If you let being brown get to you, you won't succeed. A way to overcome this, which most may not agree, is to be a little ethnocentric, not verbally but mentally. Indian's are the highest earning culture in America, the most educated, and often times the most humble. The fact that we are moving into the mainstream helps. Furthermore, you're not just Indian, I am assuming, but you're a freaken American. If anyone tells you otherwise, they can go fuck themselves! That my friend is how you should be thinking.

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Of what you do, say and think." -Buddha

I agree with you on evertyhing else but to say a large group of Indian's do that is a lie. Though I am sure there a few out there, most Indian men don't know anything about approaching women and therefore will not come close to them (as I used to be). The ones that do are what we like to call "drunk uncles". They are usually 45 years or older and have had too much Johnnie Walker, which definetly doesn't help the younger generation. Most Indian men generally end up with girls of the same race picked by their parents, that they met in college or on a dating site. I definetly can see what you are saying though.

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"In all things be a master.
Of what you do, say and think." -Buddha

jus dont be conscious of it, being black i know it matters sometimes, but if u dont worry about it, then it wont bother you, ull jus end up doubting urself and start hesitating.. if shes hot, approach her!!

i am indian as well... from what i have noticed if you take 100 people that dont want to talk to indians.... not more than 5% are doing it because of ur race.... the main problem is your appearence... how u behave in a social enviroment... basically ur your game... even as a guy I can look at another guy and tell if girls would want to talk to him or not... I have never had problems picking up girls from any race... infact not to brag i do better than most of my white friends... once in a while you will meet someone who only looks at the color of ur skin... overall people are generally nice... at least this is how u should approach life... dont be negative towards people... otherwise u will have more issues in life then girls... i just want to say that give everyone a chance untill they disappoint u

On Race:

I'm hispanic,and I went to a high school chock full of white girls,and other race girls who also act like white girls.

...They do not give a fuck about race.As long as the guy's funny,strong,Alpha,or anything else women are attracted to,ANY girl,Even white women will melt.That's how it works.

Plus,you actually have an advantage being Indian Kvee...

...indian guys usually have good hair.

Maybe capitalize on that,thrown in with alpha PUA attitude,and you can score any white girl you want,or any other girl for the matter(Unless,as previously mentioned,they are racist,in which why the hell are you talking to them anyway)?

P.S:Even further proof race doesn't matter?

...one word,Matador.

Race does matter! Asians aren't hairy, Smooth Tan skin, YOUNG Looking. Good in math, excellent businessmen. Agile etc.. I lived in with white chicks, dated 18-37 years old caucasians. Imagine if you can get White, strong willed independent girls how much more can you do with other races?

Just be yourself and treat them as equal. DO not ever think you can get a white chick on the first few minutes when you meet her.

It takes time for them to drop their guards down...all women are like that anyway.. as a matter of fact it is easier to talk with white women than any other race. Wave and say a gentlemanly hello and they will wave back and talk with you. Do that with other races they will think you're a perv.

You know whats my problem. Since I am Asian I look younger than my age and teenagers wont leave me alone! Sure they have the model like looks but talking with them is like zzzzzzzzzzzzz.....

Dont worry Guys. We have an advantage of not being white! We have our own culture that white chicks like...and its exoticness...

Wow, lotta Indians in the forum, I might as well come out, I'm Indian, but like the author of this post , I grew up in a white suburb and had mostly white friends, with little or no connection to my parents culture or religion. I used to be really self conscious about being a different race when I was younger but after college and late high school I realized most white girls are actually really open to other races and i'd give it at least a 90% chance that whatever girl your hitting on is not racist, so at that point it's not even an issue. Even if a HB has underlying prejudices about a certain race that you are, if you can WOW her and prove her wrong, than your back in the game and it doesn't matter anyway.

If you'll notice, even Matador on the Pickup Artist is Indian as well as Pradeep, and you can see how well have they performed in the feild. So just look at that as an example, race is not as big a deal as you think man.

Race Does matter because you don't know what you're getting into with you talk to a women of a different ethnic.

A situation I viewed with a friend of mine: There was this black man cool as hell good looking he had natural game he was after one of my white girl friends. But she ended up dissing the guy and hung out with some dip shit white boy the rest of the night. The white boy was such an AFC he was ok looking but he was just Lame he couldn't survive a shit test if he was given an instruction manual. Her Reason for dissing the other guy was her parents would disapprove of her dating black men.

Girls seek approval of their friends too so even if she's interested if she's a Beta female of the group and her group isn't into other dating other races. She'll reject him.

Don't let this stop you from approaching girls of other Race cuz you'll never know until you try there are lots of white girls that dont care what their parents or friends think. It's the girls fault for being shallow and stupid they're only missing out on what you have to offer them. If they want to settle for some lame chump just because he's the same race then forget them.

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So u think you can handle this?

Sounds exotic...

P.S - Race issues don't just involve "white chicks", everyone deals with it.

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Amor est Vitae Essentia

One thing to also realize - just because a woman isn't into you - don't assume it's because of race. Sometimes they just ARE NOT ATTRACTED to you. Pretty simple.

Sure there are racists but more often than not - there just isn't an inwired reaction to what you may or may not be.

I don't care for red heads - doesn't mean I hate them based on their hair color - just means that particular trait doesn't turn me on.

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I got to get into this dude's pelt and crawl around for a few days. Who's the gopher's ally? His friends. The harmless squirrel and the friendly rabbit.

Only if you let it, I have a circle of friends and have known them for some years, we all hangout from time to time and others tend to just stare at us.
We are like a pot of soup with the best of ingrediants, everytime we come together is like a family outting. life my dear is what YOU make of it. Stand tall and just be you.

For your kind (the kind that knows specifically what type of girl you want) this is harder than for most.

what you have to do is picture her. Picture were she hangs out. what she likes. & what type of guys she likes. Then put yourself in that place & be that guy simple as that or mayb complex as that because in the end we are all at least a little rascist.

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You know what your problem is?You're putting the pussy on a pedistal.