textin this HB6 or 7 give or take lol and i was texting her i tried C&f and was like "hey watsup loser =p"

yea this backfired super hard she responds "loser? ur so mean"

i said "i was j.k relax"

in a nutshell its been a week and we've had no contact haha so i jus gave up

should i try 2 pursue her? or jus say f it?

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personally I'd leave her and move on then if she did txt again...... txt back with something along the lines of

"hey loser, whats up"

If she can't take being called a 'loser' via txt then geez...bit of a drama queen

haha.... that could be funny the 2nd time around... if you add a face on the end.

But basically, C&F isn't being flat out rude, there is always an undertone. Personally if I'm sending an insult like that I'd put a smiley or something, unless I'm very sure we have a rapport that would allow me to do that and that she would know i'm just fooling around.

i never neg girls via text... they mostly take it to personal!
but you also made the mistake of saying you where just kidding! never be sorry!--> becuase then you admit you did something wrong--> afc... if she cant handle it, is it goign to be a fun relationship????

I disagree. If you have done something wrong and you KNOW it, the worst thing you can do is to make up excuses like "Eeh.. I was just kidding hehehehehehe...." That's FAIL.

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Just admit that it was wrong of you and it won't happen again. You don't have to say "I'm sorry", but just admit when you do something wrong. It will show her that you're not all about your pride and shit.

zentrode you are contradicting yourself!

No I don't think you understand what he's saying.

Make up excuses, vs apologising. 2 different things.

Try to avoid "I'm sorry" cause it just sounds weak. Not sure you should say "Ah just feeling under the wether today" or whatever, that might also be making excuses. Just a simple "Yeah that was a pretty bad call hey. Oops " maybe something like that.

Well I would apologize only if I felt what I did was really wrong and justified an apology.

A lot of times girls will act pissed off or upset to see if they can get a reaction from you. If you act over-apologetic or become flustered, it's game over. She's turned the tables and is running the show. You're so worried about trying to make things right, that she has almost full control over everything. And once she has that, she'll lose interest.

I have a kind of "deal with it" attitude. I'm very blunt and somewhat of a comical jerk, but I don't usually apologize for things I said in jest. The only time I would apologize is if one of my jokes crossed a line, and I determine that line not anyone else.

Seems to me calling a girl a loser does not constitute her reaction. Like Somerset said, she's probably just a drama queen. This is probably one of the ways she has learned to get attention from people. Throwing hissy fits and pouting.

Oh and Conker was right, smiley faces, lols, and emoticons make a huge difference in text game. It's the only way the girl will know that what you are saying, is being said in a humorous manner.

Plus C+F isn't a technique that should be constantly done. You might make 1 maybe 2 C+F jokes in a long conversation. But if everything out of your mouth is C+F, you will come off as conceited and as an entertainer.

awww she broke you.

"hey whats up loser "
"loser? your so mean"
"haha sounds like me."

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You know, I've had this problem before, there was ONE girl who's shit I really couldnt put up with though and I actually made her cry haha. She's still trying to get with me and I'm still trying to get her to quit being an r-tard. It's fun!

There's no reason to apologize if YOU KNOW you were only kidding...whenever people called me a loser, I took it VERY personally due to a lot of things that happened in my life it's not so bad now, you can fire right back, it's perfectly fair. I also took being called weird personal because I'm different, I took that as a bad thing, but I'd rather be weird and stick out than be normal and BORING. =)

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You have a point. I don't know this girl and I don't know how she's like. However, if she was actually offended by what he said (probably not, but still) then it would be appropriate to "make it right" again by either apologizing or doing something nice for her.

I would say that I rather used my previous post as an example for future uses. I was probably not referring to this exact situation because there's more information required in this case to know exactly what is morally right or wrong to do.

I like your thinking though.

Yeah, this mindset came from an experience I had when I was first starting out.

I used a technique I saw from an old Ross Jeffries video, which was a mistake because I ignored the part where he said to only use the technique as a last ditch effort, not to mention the technique wasn't very good to begin with. It was basically to neg a girl when she doesn't call you back or flakes, but without the funny, and to instill the fear of loss in her.
As a newbie I was still needy and insecure, so when this one chick I liked didn't text me back when I asked her for a 3rd date, I sent her a text saying "Well I guess that's a no then. See you when I see you.". Well what I didn't know was that there was a delay on the text being sent, and she didn't get them until like a day and a half later, and she got them both at once. From my perspective I sent her a text, waited a day, and sent her another one. From her's I asked her out and instantly took it back. So she called me and asked me what the hell was going on. I felt like such a dumbass for jumping to conclusions that I started apologizing. And that's when I heard it.

I could actually hear it in her voice. I could hear the wheels turning and I could tell she sensed an opportunity. She saw weakness in me and she pounced on it. Like an opportunist, she could tell that if she could milk this weakness that I would have to play her game and not the other way around. And she said "I'll call you in a couple of days, but I don't want to talk right now because I'm too upset". When we finally did talk again, she tried to give me an ultimatum. She said we could go out again, but just as friends to begin with, till she could trust me again. But, I'd been expecting this and thought everything through in those couple of days. So, I told her no, and that I think we should just make a clean break.

Looking back I realize that being inconsistent (not backing up what you say) and weakening to the emotionality of women hurts attraction far more than saying or doing something insensitive. Women love jerks because women love the emotional thrill of drama. It's perfectly all right to apologize, but there is a right way and a wrong way to do it. Don't give in or be affected by the emotions of a woman. Apologize logically and calmly. A lot of times you have to remain unemotional around women, especially when they are overly emotional. Downplay the seriousness of the issue, don't intensify it. And don't just flat out apologize blankly. Apologize while still defending your point of view.

So what have we learned? Texting can be a bitch, when something goes wrong or is misinterpreted.

That's a really good story, one I think we can all relate to.
I think it's important to not mistake this as the behaviour of a manipulative bitch, but rather an instinctive response that they can't help, forged by evolution itself. If you can be manipulated emotionally in this way, then you are not strong enough to look after her.

Oh I absolutely understood that. She was a great girl, and I knew she wasn't trying to hurt me, it was just a reflex she could not control. But that still didn't change the situation. If I knew then what I know now, I could have recovered and gotten the girl. But back then I was too driven by ego and I didn't want to accept being "just friends". Even though now I realize I probably could have gone out with her as "just friends" and still f-closed. But that kind of wisdom only comes with experience.