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Do you have a religion/and or believe in God?
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And tell me, why would I be foolish to believe what the Bible says?
hmm....giant ark? flesh eating zombies? the tower of babel? ALL of Genesis?

I counter your question with another! What makes the bible 'more true' than, lets say, the Quran? or the Book of Mormon? or the Flying Spaghetti Monster?
Bible=Various forms. Including and excluding certain books depending on denomination. Translations can also affect content as well. Old testament dates back to the 12 century B.C.
Torah=First five books of the old testament.
Quran=Teachings of the Prophet Mohamed, written around 630 a.d.
Book of Mormon= Written in America by Joseph Smith in the early 1800s.
Flying Spaghetti Monster= Assumed to be created by KristallNachte in the early 2000's.

None of these are wrong. Religion is a deeply personal choice, and it's not about right or wrong, better or worse. There is no right way to worship God, only the way you choose, the way that calls to you. You might not have a place for faith in your heart, and that's fine. But because of that you will never understand what it is like to be a believer, and feel something so deeply and viscerally, that you just know it is right. Because of this, debates are pointless. Everyone makes their own decisions about religion or lack thereof, and at some point we all just have to agree to disagree.

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Flying Spaghetti Monster= Assumed to be created by KristallNachte in the early 2000's.
false

Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster: http://www.venganza.org/


it even has an evidence page which you should definitely take a look at.


oh, and the Bible was written in 400AD. learn your timeline.

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When I was younger I went to a Catholic School, church and have done my confirmation etc. So I'm still technically a catholic.

I don't know if I believe in God now. I'd say I'm faily apathetic towards all forms of religion. I'd rather concentrate on other things in my life.

The only way I see religion conflicting with PUA is if you were fairly devout. But I don't know very much about other religions. So it doesn't effect me...


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1. Wrong if you have good morals. Wouldn't you want to be with a girl who waited her whole life to have sex with you and share that special passion that only a man, and a woman can enjoy?
If this happened, there would be major problems for the human race. Humans need to have multiple sexual partners to sustain the species and keep the gene pool effective and varied.
However, to demonstrate this I would have to draw upon evidence from Darwin and also look at other primates and their sexual habits (the % of males who do the majority of the reproduction in the species). It is a pointless debate to have as the idea we are genetically similar to a monkey or Darwin said anything factual would not be accepted by most people who are truly religious just as all the scientific people would not accept the earth was made in 6 days and there was a giant flood where 2 of every animal survived.
However, this is the beauty of the religion vs science debate. It all boils down to personal belief, nobody is right or wrong and everyone should keep their own opinions strong and not try to manipulate those of others. This is strong core of self belief is what makes individuals interesting, have strong core beliefs from everything from religion to what your favourite tv show is.


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Flying Spaghetti Monster= Assumed to be created by KristallNachte in the early 2000's.
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Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster: http://www.venganza.org/


it even has an evidence page which you should definitely take a look at.


oh, and the Bible was written in 400AD. learn your timeline.
hahahahah thats some funny stuff...

i have never seen so many pissed of christians in my life

i think i found my new religion

what does the FSM think about PUA?

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Flying Spaghetti Monster= Assumed to be created by KristallNachte in the early 2000's.
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Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster: http://www.venganza.org/


it even has an evidence page which you should definitely take a look at.


oh, and the Bible was written in 400AD. learn your timeline.

The church of the flying spaghetti montster, I believe was created by Dawkins.. but regardless of it's creator it's main function is not as an actual religion but rather as a puppet religion it uses various catch all theistic arguments to prove itself, to show how many popular theist arguments fall rpay to logical positivism and ockhams razor.

And you thinking of the NT... the OT is a collection of jewish books which date back to 1200BC...

Learn your biblical history :P


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it is interesting to see some religious rules i are based in the past which in this time makes things worse for people who guilt ridden and never happy.

I am a wiccan so with pua it`s fine as long as i don`t break the three fold law which is do as you will be harm non. so for that reason i will never knowingly game someones wife or girl friend

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1. Marrying a virgin would be unhappy to you, and having sex with every high quality girls (sluts), when most have slept with countless men? You seem to me living in a hollywood movie my friend. Most girls out there would appreciate a guy who has either waited for them, or hasnt slept with many women.


2. No where in the Bible is flesh eating zombies mentioned, so idk where that came from.

3. Noahs Ark- if you read about earlier civilizations around the world, almost all of them speak a great flood. So the Bibles right on that part. Now for the ark, some people say this is the ark that is found.

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40060

http://www.grmi.org/Richard_Riss/evidences2/08ark.html

4. The Quran was written after the Bible is has alot of similarities since Mohammad took alot of stuff from the bible to the quran. There are differences though. Parts of the quran are the exact opposite of the bible. EX: It states that Jesus was not crucified. It also states that in the end time the Mahdi(Their Savior) will come to save the muslims, and have them wear something on either their right hand or forhead. The Bible states that the antichrist will have people accept his mark on either the forhead or right hand(Mark of the Beast). The Bible is the only infallable word of God, not the quran or book of morman. The book of Morman was written by a freemason with the name Joseph Stalin. Its funny how mormans follow his teaching when the books of morman contradict the bible. There for the Bible is the only one that stand above all..


What else do i have to disprove on hear?!


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1. Marrying a virgin would be unhappy to you, and having sex with every high quality girls (sluts), when most have slept with countless men? You seem to me living in a hollywood movie my friend. Most girls out there would appreciate a guy who has either waited for them, or hasnt slept with many women.


2. No where in the Bible is flesh eating zombies mentioned, so idk where that came from.

3. Noahs Ark- if you read about earlier civilizations around the world, almost all of them speak a great flood. So the Bibles right on that part. Now for the ark, some people say this is the ark that is found.

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40060

http://www.grmi.org/Richard_Riss/evidences2/08ark.html

4. The Quran was written after the Bible is has alot of similarities since Mohammad took alot of stuff from the bible to the quran. There are differences though. Parts of the quran are the exact opposite of the bible. EX: It states that Jesus was not crucified. It also states that in the end time the Mahdi(Their Savior) will come to save the muslims, and have them wear something on either their right hand or forhead. The Bible states that the antichrist will have people accept his mark on either the forhead or right hand(Mark of the Beast). The Bible is the only infallable word of God, not the quran or book of morman. The book of Morman was written by a freemason with the name Joseph Stalin. Its funny how mormans follow his teaching when the books of morman contradict the bible. There for the Bible is the only one that stand above all..


What else do i have to disprove on hear?!
1. a very low amount of women today are virgins when they wed.. i wish half of the pop could keep there shit in there pants.. maybe there wouldint be some many STDs.. but then again im not down to pop allot of cherries...

2. catholics eat the simbolic flesh of jesus every sunday at mass, the zombie part could be either because you blindly follow a religion that when it is questioned you listen to answers that are simply "Have Faith", or due to the fact that jesus died and came back to life... aka a zombie

3. noahs ark... really? like really? why is it that we are discovering new species of insects and animals every day? don't say that its evolution because you don't believe in that, and don't say that oh noah just didn't take very good notes when he got every single type of insect, and animal on the planet... another thing... how the hell do you explain native american.. did people who where in an evolved city just run into the amazon and decide to live at a huge dissatavantage for thousands of years? oh and how do you explain Asian, black, and all the other races in the world? or did they each individually have their own arks for their own religions?? or maybe they jumped on the flying spaghetti monsters back and hitched a ride

4. you guys don't follow the OT remember? i questioned the validity of the OT and you said that you only follow the NEW testament... like he said... 400 ad... by some asshole

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okay listen... if the concepts of PUA go against your religion, and you still practice PUA, that means you going against your religion, aka not religious..
There is also the possibility of learning PUA without wanting to become one, thus not going against one's faith.


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okay listen... if the concepts of PUA go against your religion, and you still practice PUA, that means you going against your religion, aka not religious..
There is also the possibility of learning PUA without wanting to become one, thus not going against one's faith.
What part of being a PUA did you not understand? *cough* keyboard jock *cough*.

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