VERY TRUE!!

Being a PUA isn't about knowing lines and shit. It's about being able to talk to people knowing you'll get positive reactions out of them because of the experience you have had doing it.

I also agree that outer game helps one find his inner game and how success is obtained.



It is just like teaching a child how to multiply.
First you start with simple things: 1x2=3 , 2x2=4. The child will memorize his tables and memorize how to multiply simple numbers. It always starts off easy and slowly.
The child starts practicing and can do the multiplications off the top of his head. He starts understanding the actual operation that multiplication is and the method it uses. He then reaches a level where he learns about long multiplication. The ability to multiply any numbers no matter how big they are. A child will reach that level first through memorization, then through practice, time, and understanding.


Same thing applies to PUA's. If I wasn't given some of the routines to try, I wouldn't have explored what it's like. Yes, they were a crutch; but after a while on crutches I was able to walk just fine by myself. Just like the child needed the table of multiplication to start off and practice it, I think the routines and outer game stuff definitely helped get things off the ground.


A lot of PUA's have programs about inner game. I've watched those programs, and all it does is put into words the things I've seen and felt in my own self while out there working with 'outer game'. If I didn't first learn some techniques and 'outer game' and try it out, I wouldn't have really connected with the stuff the 'inner game' material has to teach us.

Quick Definition:
Anything that gives a PUA the confidence boost he needs in order to escalate his game, even if it isn’t necessarily true.


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Full Definition:
Bullshit escalation is a term used by some PUAs to describe the positive effect that a piece of advice or information can have, even if it isn’t true. The concept is similar to the placebo effect encountered in medicine, where a patient is given a bogus SPAM, and still sees noticeable benefits. Sometimes just because a person believes something is true, it becomes true because of their belief.

Bullshit escalation is especially true in pickup, since one of the most important traits when it comes to picking up women is confidence. Confidence is just a belief in oneself and a belief that one will succeed, so just by believing in a pickup method or a pickup routine, a PUA can come across as more confident, and that confidence will increase his success with women, even if the thing that he believes in is bullshit.

For example, a GPUA might be given a silly opener such as “I like salad,” and given a bullshit explanation as to why the line always works in getting women to be attracted to them. Even if the reasons why the opener work are just made up, if the person using the opener believes strongly enough that the opener will work, this will come across in his subcommunication, and lead to the opener being successful. This highlights the importance of delivery when opening, and communicating in general. It is not what a PUA says, but how he says it that will determine whether or not he succeeds.

There is a lot of bullshit in the PUA community, with many PUA gurus attempting to give legitimacy to their methods by explaining them in terms of evolutionary psychology, NLP, spirituality, and other disciplines which have only a tenuous link to hard science. However, even if the reasoning behind a technique is false, the technique itself can still work. Sometimes it is even just the belief that the technique will work, that makes it work. The most important thing to focus on is what works in the field, and how to execute it, rather than speculating about why it works.

Usage:
That PUA method is just bullshit escalation, but it works!


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Related Terms: Inner Game, Affirmation, Alpha, Frame, Situational Confidence

Source: Grape

I want to know does anyone feel that they wouldnt have progressed as far as they have if they hadn't at first used routines.
Or do they believe they would of reached this point quicker if they had started off with natural game.

Personally, when I went through a phase of a month or two, using routines, I totally failed to close. Once I realised they were just crap, I dropped them and now I close around 40-50%. They were a massive hindrance to me - all I needed was a kick up the ass and a dollop of confidence.