precisely how its been brutalized. they've built a structure up that isn't realistically sound. In fact the current, religiously supported concept of romance has pretty much zero basis in reality.


same with most romance movies. shit like that pretty much never happens, and generally when they do its not 2 perfectly awesome people, its generally 2 equally insecure and lonely people.

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Right on

But contempory romance is being upheld by them, whcih is a drawback in itself.

Haha, I wouldnt mind to debate, but it has already been doine for me. Watch Zeitgeist Refuted on google video. It shows what true Christianity is about, and that the Bible in fact is 100% accurate..

haha.. okay let me state some "facts" from the bible

Exodus 35:2: God demands that everyone should be killed that works on the sabbath day
Deuteronomy 21:18-21: God demands we kill disobedient teenagers
Deuteronomy 22:13-21: God demands that we kill women whom are not virgins when they marry

Women shalt not teach, nor hold authority positions over men. (1 Timothy 2:11-15)

Crippled people, dwarves, those with flat noses or damaged testicles must stay away from the altar. (Leviticus 21:18-20)

Thou shalt not boil a kid in its mother’s milk! (Exodus 23:19)

Thou shalt not be disrespectful to thy parents, lest ye be killed. (Leviticus 20:9)

Thou shalt not be a dirty queer homosexican fag. (Leviticus 18:22)

hopefully the bible is wrong or else you should stay away from this site...

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If your going to question me, you better have a theory behind your argument.

"Never be bullied into silence. Never allow yourself to be made a victim. Accept no one's definition of your life; define yourself."
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Now for more proof that the what Furious Racer said is complete BS kindly consult the link http://godisimaginary.com .

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Anyone can walk into a bar and pick up a random girl.
The trick is to make the experience unforgettable to her.
A real PUA will make every women he encounters feel like she experience something once in a lifetime.

I'm a muslim, but i don't "look" like it.. I'm european. I was born muslim, and a while ago (about a year or so) I started to doubt the existance of god.. i was nearly an atheist at one point, but i am back to being full-fledged muslim. I'm more religoius than my dad.. he doesn't let me fast for ramadan, so i only got to fast the first 5 days because during that time i was away from him on vaca. I would LOVE to fast the full 30 days but he won't let me.

If there's any muslims on this board that would like some help on strengthening their imam, just PM me and you will be one step closer to washing away any doubts for good.

Oh and sex is very imbraced in Islam, just not before marriage. In fact, if the wife is horny and doesn't have her period, her man has to give it up to her unless he has a good excuse (such being he is sick, he must go to work, he can't get it up, etc).

Crazy right? The reverse is also true. If the husband is horny, his wife has to give it up to him unless she has a very good excuse (she's menstruating, sick, needs to attend children, needs to go to work, etc). HOWEVER, if the man cannot have intercourse with the woman without thinking of his wife's needs before his (aka he can't do it solely for his own pleasure.. he can't pound away while she screams in pain unless she's okay with it)

Giving head and fingering and stuff is allowed. I haven't read anything in the koran that's specifically against that, but what IS prohibited is anal sex.

I've heard a lot of bullshit about my religion that isn't true, such as the women are "sex slaves" to the man.. funny how they completely miss out the flip side of the story (and also didn't state any exceptions..)

im studying to be a bio engineer, and it is extremely possible, we can do it with many animals, and with far better results than those stated. humans are just another animal, but there are huge moral implications.

1st off... that wasn't the argument, the argument was how effective the cloned human would be, second of all, there will never be a cloned human, there are too many damn religious people out there that believe that we are not animals but indeed created by god, to be in control of all that is below us, aka animals,

the only way that would happen is if an atheist, scientist who doesn't care about what the hell might happen if you clone an intelligent being, and doesn't care about the rest of the american's peoples opinion, wins a presidential campaign, other than that no way

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If your going to question me, you better have a theory behind your argument.

"Never be bullied into silence. Never allow yourself to be made a victim. Accept no one's definition of your life; define yourself."
-Harvey Fierstein

I love it when people say stuff like this. let me explain all this..

1st off the verse you have just given me are in the Old Testament. Before Jesus came down from heaven to die for YOU and ME, this is what people had to live by. BUT since he died on the cross, and rose on the 3rd day, we can now ask him for forgivness and dont need to be living like people did in the Old Testament.

oh new testament?

Matthew 21:21 " Jesus replied, 'I tell you the truth, if you have faith and do not doubt, not only can you do what was done to the fig tree, but also you can say to this mountain, 'Go, throw yourself into the sea,' and it will be done. If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer.'"

God i have faith, please give me all the money in the world, oh and throw in some PUA skills so i can get me some poon, amen

If you do something wrong with your eye or hand, cut/pluck it off (Matthew 5:29-30, in a sexual context).

Marrying a divorced woman is adultery. (Matthew 5:32)

Don't plan for the future. (Matthew 6:34)

Don't save money. (Matthew 6:19-20)

Don't become wealthy. (Mark 10:21-25)

Sell everything and give it to the poor. (Luke 12:33)

Don't work to obtain food. (John 6:27)

Don't have sexual urges. (Matthew 5:28 )

Make people want to persecute you. (Matthew 5:11)

Let everyone know you are better than the rest. (Matthew 5:13-16)

Take money from those who have no savings and give it to rich investors. (Luke 19:23-26)

If someone steals from you, don't try to get it back. (Luke 6:30)

If someone hits you, invite them to do it again. (Matthew 5:39)

If you lose a lawsuit, give more than the judgment. (Matthew 5:40)

If someone forces you to walk a mile, walk two miles. (Matthew 5:41)

If anyone asks you for anything, give it to them without question. (Matthew 5:42)



im glad i could help point out something that you dint know about,

but enough of the jesus quotes, im not here to fight about the bible im here to talk about PUA

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If your going to question me, you better have a theory behind your argument.

"Never be bullied into silence. Never allow yourself to be made a victim. Accept no one's definition of your life; define yourself."
-Harvey Fierstein

First of all, having all the money i the world will make you a corrupt person. Most rich people who say they believe in God, dont follow his way, instead they worship their money. Secondly, you ask for PUA skills for pussy, God says not to have sex until marriage, so obviously he wont give you skills to get pussy from every girl. If you want all the money, and to be the best PUA, go sell your soul to the devil, and im sure you'll get it. You have greatly taken out of context the verses you posted. Lets examin a few:

Let everyone know you are better than the rest. (Matthew 5:13-16) It actually says:

13 “You are the salt of the earth. But what good is salt if it has lost its flavor? Can you make it salty again? It will be thrown out and trampled underfoot as worthless.

14 “You are the light of the world—like a city on a hilltop that cannot be hidden. 15 No one lights a lamp and then puts it under a basket. Instead, a lamp is placed on a stand, where it gives light to everyone in the house. 16 In the same way, let your good deeds shine out for all to see, so that everyone will praise your heavenly Father.

It says to do good deeds, and be a good person. Dont you notice when someone is nice, and does the right thing?


Take money from those who have no savings and give it to rich investors. (Luke 19:23-26)

This is actually a story of a rich man, who worshiped money, and wanted to have as much as possible by using his servants to make it for him.

Don't have sexual urges. (Matthew 5:28 )

Yes, we arnt suppose to want to have sex with every girl we see, for one its wrong, and the second reason is so you dont end up with HIV, or AIDS. Its for your own good. But we are in a society now that every thing we see and hear has some sexual innuendo tied to it, so it makes it more difficult. I would go on, but im here to talk PUA to..

wrong by what standard?
but the bible was written before that.


plus HIV is actually fairly rare, and difficult to contract as long as you use a condom.

furious racer, the only way to not look completely ignorant is to accept that there are aspects of the bible that are entirely nonsense. No one is saying being christian is inherently ignorant, but to believe all aspects of it unquestioningly is just insane.

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1. Wrong if you have good morals. Wouldnt you want to be with a girl who waited her whole life to have sex with you and share that special passion that only a man, and a woman can enjoy?

2. Yes the Bible was written before HIV, and AIDS, but remember, this book is from God, he knows how this will all end.

And tell me, why would I be foolish to believe what the Bible says?

....what? first off, dolphins can enjoy sex. Second, honestly, I don't think i'd be able to marry a virgin, because she'd be under experienced and we'd be doomed to a pretty unhappy marriage.

I still don't see how 'waiting till marriage' is morally better than having sex with every high quality girl you meet.....
hmm....giant ark? flesh eating zombies? the tower of babel? ALL of Genesis?

I counter your question with another! What makes the bible 'more true' than, lets say, the Quran? or the Book of Mormon? or the Flying Spaghetti Monster?

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