false time constraint. dont need it?



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:09 pm 
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why use it? i mean if the girl is interested then dont say u have to go. plus wat if u say u are in a hurry and u keep gaming and she says dont u have to go? i relaly dont think they are necessary. give me ur thoughts


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:49 pm 
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When you first open a set, you haven't yet had much time to build value, and thus you are nearly indistinguishable from every other loser guy. A girl might think, Oh great, how long is this guy going to be here? Am I going to have to go dance, or go to the bathroom, or go buy a drink, so that I can get rid of this guy?

This is not a useful frame of mind for her to be in. But it is possible to inoculate her mind against such thoughts. You can create the illusion in her mind that you are fust leaving anyway. She should always have this feeling like you are about to leave.
One way of creating this impression is to use false time constraints. This technique was first popularized by Style. A few examples:

After you deliver the first few words of your opener, use a false time constraint. Then once you reach the Hook Point, try delivering another false time constraint. Why? Because the set has now decided that they want you to stay. A false time constraint at this moment will create a fear of loss. Thus begins the cycle of baiting the target to chase.
So basicly, the girl you are opening to, will have another mindset / judge differently about you.


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If you thinks it weird to say it - show it!
Use your bodylanguage. Works perfect.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 6:18 pm 
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is the girl intrested or is she just being polite? The reason for FTC is gives you a chance to get off that social hooking point. Not all Set are intrested to the first thing you say until you get off the social hooking point. Body laungage is another great way to Show FTC without verbaly telling them. If you where a hot chick and some guy ask you a question which you really wasnt intrested in and just hover there akwardly, wouldnt that seem creepy? hence the FTC. You dont always have to use it but majority of the time it helps!.

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The use of a FTC depends on your opener and the type of game you use. It mainly works best with opinion openers, but there's no point in a FTC if you're dancing or if you use direct game because you've already made your intentions very clear. She already knows that you're hitting on her.


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The point of a Time constraint is in case something goes wrong you already had a path to go towards , so if they blow you out or whatever you can bounce without you 're value completely diminished .
Also the point of it is that your time is valuable and you in other words are stating that you dnt plan to hang around them all night , therefore making you valuable ;
Time constraints extremely important.

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ben, what did i tell you about all this?

leave it until you're at least 16. life experience will answer a lot of questions for you better than anyone here can.

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