For the past few days I have been working on this HB8, and since I have known her for some time now (about 8 months) didn't really have to approach/open her. I just had to open the set she was with on the first night. The biggest problem that I am having right now (3 days later) is picking up on the IOI's before it is too late. I think this because we were friends in passing, well some what. I have caught some of the IOI, but I have been told that I am missing a lot of them. Plus, this coming friday I have a date set up with her and would like to be able to at least close in some sort. I feel like I am flapping in the wind on this one and could use some help.

Hi,

Be more specific. What do you need help with exactly? Recognizing IOI's or how to close? and what kinda close, k-close/f-close?

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Hi,

Be more specific. What do you need help with exactly? Recognizing IOI's or how to close? and what kinda close, k-close/f-close?

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Assume attraction, everywhere anywhere.

why?

because not all girls know what they're doing, they can be shy or introvert, some are bitchy but STILL LIKE YOU. you never know untill you get a full on rejection.

Assuming attraction and following your gut gets you more closes then following a list of ioi's

Dude Dude Dude.. You have known her for eight months... Even if she spank you it can be because you feel comfterable in your environment and like to play with you. You have to chill, you don't know she wants you man. Common IOI's like touching and stuff doesn't mean attraction after 8 months. Your mind is playing tricks on you, get to your senses!

So you known her for 8 months..and now you are going on a date? Now is it a "Real" date or just the 2 of you hanging-out?. Theres a big diffrence in this,for all you know you could be in her friend-zone. It might be a date to you but just hanging out with a friend to her. Now theres a need for clarification in this.

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Well to start, I have known her for 8 months cause of some of my friends. Plus I know her from work; some what, she works in another area. Although it is highly likely that this 'date' is just a hang out and that would be okay. At least it is an event that I can learn from. Not that I am going to sit back and take it. About 'thinking' that she likes me maybe false and I realize that IOI's are not always attraction. It feels like attraction in my gut, Jav you have a good point with this - 'Assume attraction, everywhere anywhere' and - 'you never know until you get a full on rejection.' The help I guess that I am looking for is with close anxiety. I didn't think that there was such a thing, but it does make sense. I will see what happens; I may just have to go in for a k-close. Thank you all for the comments, it has helped me step back and look at this from other angles.[/quote]

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You don't need IOIs to be a successful pick up artist. Whats more important is that you set the strong frame that you are the prize, you lead and that you have strong body language. Practice sucking her into your world rather tahn being reactive to her/looking for IOIs

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Looking for IOIs is stupid, because guys learning to pick up women on the internet, generally don't know what to look for, so by the time they notice 1 IOI, she's thrown 10 and is annoyed you don't get it.

Assume it's on and have a plan for moving the interaction forward verbally, physically, and logistically.

JS

Looking for IOIs is stupid, because guys learning to pick up women on the internet, generally don't know what to look for, so by the time they notice 1 IOI, she's thrown 10 and is annoyed you don't get it.

Assume it's on and have a plan for moving the interaction forward verbally, physically, and logistically.

JS

I thought that the IOI was a good indicator, but as I am starting to realize it is not as good as I thought. I will have to go back to trusting my gut more. I usually don't pick them up until after the set, or in this case the target, has fell through. Currently working the issue of close anxiety and looking into a more indepth view of body language. In just a few hours it has helped.

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