It's funny how all I hear is women complaining about how there are no good men out there and men complaining how there are no hot chicks out there that will date them? This is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.
Girls... if you want a nice guy that treats you well then they are out there. Stop looking at his pecs!!!
Guys... if you want a nice girlfriend that treats you well then they are out there too. Stop looking at her Boobs!!!
Basically, if you are an ALC and want to date a hot girl then you better have talent, money or fame! Otherwise look elsewhere!
There are tons of average looking women looking for love too!
End of Story!

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Jessie
Phermax Pheromones

ALC?

AFC you mean?


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Every Saint has a Past, Every Sinner has a Future

I think this is a broad generalization... I know plenty of drop dead gorgeous girls that are sweethearts that have equally good men. Everyone has their drawbacks of coarse. But honestly, people are much more dynamic than your making them out to be.

Not every guy wants gianormous boobs. Take me for example, I'm a good looking guy that eats well, runs 3 days a week, and works out 5 days a week. I know that I'm not ugly; but, I don't overly assert that and only look for women with big boobs because I'm capable of getting them. I personally pay more attention to their face, actions, and intellect than their boobs (Eating well and reading are a must for a relationship status!). I prefer b-cups. Seriously, some c-cup boobs are just too saggy and dont feel that great to the touch.

Also, you left out the ass-men!

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No I meant ALC! That is my vernacular for "average looking chump"
I think putting the word 'frustrated' in there is limiting.

But thanks so much for the grammar lessons on an acronym which has no universal agreement on the precise definition of the various terms (see nomenclature) as per wikipedia. Look it up...

The definition of "crazy" is doing the same things and expecting a different result. Try doing things differently and you will get a different result

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Jessie
Phermax Pheromones

I think you are right! It is a broad generalization but kept in context to the posts on this site I think it is appropriate. Every guy on here complains about how girls won't go out with them... blah... blah... blah... You never hear about the guy who meets a girl that has the same interests as him, they get along, have similar core values but she doesn't want to go out with them??? That's because guys think with the wrong part of their anatomy. Try using your heart cause believe me you will find an awesome girl that will love you forever if you love her back. It is truly that easy.

I know plenty of drop dead gorgeous girls too that are sweethearts also AND have equally good men! You just said it for me. EQUALLY GOOD MEN!!! All I'm saying is that if you are hot and have nothing else going for you then you will be attracted to hot guys who have nothing else going for them. So guys that are average looking need not apply unless they have one of the other 3 things... money... talent... or ambition.

All I was saying but in simplistic terms was date your equal. Don't expect to date a beautiful, fit, intelligent, sweet and charming girl if you are not all of those things yourself and more. Work on yourself first and those attributes will come to you in your partner.

Thanks for the banter

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Jessie
Phermax Pheromones

This is Bullshit. I have been with girls who my friends have suggested isnt good-looking enough for me. I dont mind if she's an HB10 or HB6, she should just somehow click-- and I've dated from 7's right upto 9's. (And btw, I'm a good-looking tall AFC, certainly not an ALC.)

What makes hot chicks and "hot" guys so different that they should date within their own pool?

PS: since you're in this forum, please stick to the lingo that is commonly used in this community. For a glossary refer to the top of the Newbie thread. Do not blatantly coin terms on your own and state them here without providing definitions. That is just rude.

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No girl is too pretty, and no woman is too ugly for me. That is my Creed.

Well good 4 u Man So why are you spending your time here on a pua forum?
Oh, you are probably just spreading your vast knowledge of "dudeum." Or is that not the correct lingo used commonly by the common?
You guys need to stop feeding each others egos and get to the reality of life and dating. It seems like there are a lot of angry men in this forum who only want to hear things that feed their disproportionate egos.
Jessie
ps. I think I will stick to the English Language Thanks for the etiquette lesson

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Jessie
Phermax Pheromones

As I said, Im good and partly into the game, but still a college semi-AFC. I have a lot to learn.

Stop trolling and come out with some genuine input if you have one.

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No girl is too pretty, and no woman is too ugly for me. That is my Creed.

The above argument totally killed my iBoner...
Before I get started, I know these comments were not directed at me; however, I do feel like what I have to say may help ease some of the apparent bitterness.

Why am I here? Because I've unknowingly been an AFC for far too long. I've resorted to taking what I can get rather than having confidence and game and going after what I want. Some of the guidelines, responses, and hierarchical escalations are things that my parents nor any of my friends ever taught me. So far (I've been in the community for a week), "The Game" has done more for me than just given me guidelines and taught me how to swindle phone numbers, its made me see that I'm not alone, given me general confidence, and a better understanding of my counter part.

In regards to boosting the ego. You may be right (it would be hard for me to judge after only a week), but in my case, you are wrong. I see this community as being more based on promoting positive mental patterns, raising self-esteem, finding personal self-worth, and generally helping people that don't have a clue and have had to admit that they were inadequate in one way or another to even join such a forum. All this does seem to be overshadowed by the fact that we are all trying to become better at playing the game in order to fulfill sexual urges.

On a shorter note, I know plenty of women who also tend to elicit anger and "only want to hear things that feed their disproportionate egos," when it comes to dealing with a guy who just shot them down.

I think that everyone is mixed up and confused to an extent, and we'd all like to blame the opposite sex for our short comings (no pun intended ) and incompatibilities. I hope this can add some contrast to your seemingly bitter perspective on the males in this community. And as I've only been here an admitted week, perhaps you can enlighten me with some examples of why you think of this community is as ego-centered as you feel it is? I'm certainly open to suggestion!

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NEWSFLASH: The PUA community's purpose is to learn a social skill set such that average looking men can date hot women.

They don't have to have talent, money or fame to date a hott girl. I believe it is all about personality. First comes looks, and then personality.

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Let's see... I had a point of view that guys don't want to hear so instead of listening to someone elses opinion you degrade the one that doesn't match yours. That seems to be a closed minded person to me. Your insults are just making me feel so bad about myself ;( I'm just not sure if I am capable of quitting trolling and/or able to make any genuine input. Does that make you feel better about yourself?

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Jessie
Phermax Pheromones

I agree
personality is important and so are looks. I was just saying that these AFC that don't have anything to offer a girl are going to have a hard time picking up a hot girl and maybe they should not turn away the average looking girls as they are in the same boat. Just sayin'

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Jessie
Phermax Pheromones

I think it's definitely harder for average to worse looking guys, but they can also improve their looks a lot.

Most guys have no sense of fashion, don't take care of their bodies, and don't have any sort of stereotype besides average dude...

So if guys change that they can become at least good looking if not hot.

Then there's the matter of social value, connections, wealth and personality to make up for it.

I think there's a lot of guys ( myself included) who changed their looks for the better and got hot girls.

JS

Agreed with Sinn...

How can a woman expect a guy to take care of her if he can't even take care of himself? Take care of yourself first - always. Sure it's selfish, but at the end of the day, it's your life. You can't just live it to serve everyone else before you. Plus, the fact that you are taking care of yourself will show in many different ways.