Hey Guys,

I've got a long story. But to cut it short. I met this girl from those online webcam porn stream (whatever you call it) site, and we started talking privately.

We have been through a lot of things. From a enjoy talking with each other almost 24/7 (she cut down a lot of work time) phase to the point where she had some financial debts because she didnt' work. I paid her some money, it wasn't much, but to me it is. We're both 21, and she's a bit older than me.

We changed from that chat-a-lot phase to a phase where she liked me "maybe too much" (as she once said). But I never commit into something I cannot promise, so I really wanted to think this through... as it is very different to what people may have in their normal lives.

Recently, I feel that i want to try. I told her I like her, but she has been telling herself to just see me as a friend.. and things didn't go well for a while. There was another guy later that she liked.. but that didn't turn out well because he was more naive than me probably.

I don't graduate till 2010.. I plan to go visit her then.. or maybe mid year break.

We're kinda at a time, she probably talks to me more than other people, but afterall i'm a person she cannot see or touch in real at the moment.. I told her before that if she ever has sex with anyone she has to tell me. and she said ok.

Today she told me she had sex with a guy "last night". A friend of a friend that she knew a while. She just called him, with the intentions of sex. But she does like him. After a while of talking she aske dme what i think of her telling me this. I said (because i know i cant' give it to her now), that "you have been pretty upset with family and all that has come up for quite a while, and today, I guess since he was able to make you sound so happy, that's what's most important.. that youre' happy, i guess i'm not as angry.. as i probably would have been. But I am jealous."

Right now.. I really don't know what to do.. All these thoughts going into my head.. finding it hard to drop it. Wondering whether she'll go out with him... I don't know.

Don't stress to much about an online "girlfriend" ...
She may not be what she tells you she is. Online dating, like this is dangerous, you could get yourself in movie-like trouble, I don't know.
The point is you're making it as if she was your girlfriend, and you're not even close or have met even, maybe she's just a phase, or she's something "different" but maybe she's just playing, it could be that she does the same to a lot of other guys. Online, there's no way of telling.
Don't be stressed about it.

I hope to god you are not paying her while you are talking to her. If you are then you need to seriously slap your self and find some other girl.

Okay, well how these websites work is.. You look at say a girl called "Hotbabe69". When you first get in, you'll see her, and you can talk to her in free chat. However, if you want to talk to her alone, or get her to strip etc, you go into private.

In private, you pay per minute.

Basically, one day, she pretended to get all upset with something little i said. Then asked me to "get out, before i kick you.. i dont' want to see you again etc." Then after a while of me saying sorry, she just kept asking me to trust her, just "get out". Finally I got out of her private, and she said: "i wasn't actually mad... I am just trying to show you through experience, how webcam girls keep guys hooked to them emotionally... you are young.. you shouldn't waste your life and money on a lie. These are all fake." From then on, we talked on msn..

But you know what guys? REALLY.. I at one point of time, read the GAME (i didn't finish it, because after a while.. i thought it's really not my style to do one night stands sorta thing.. although I have thought about it.. but i just feel it's not very... ME), i've also read the other dating stuff like double your dating, mystery's own manual, a lot of these things really.. Some things I find pretty useful and some kinda a part of me already. Then, I really owned. I got a lot of girls who like me.. but then i had some bad experiences.. loved a girl whom i shouldn't, she was the best girl i've met.. but we shouldn't have progressed mroe than just friends..

I got upset.. didn't really wanna date anymore for a while, then I thought i'd try another nationality, that didn't work out.. the girl was too sophisticated.. her heart was too... schemic if that makes sense.. or so i felt.

however, before, i found out that all the people that liked me, i never thought of them as potentials gfs. I never get into a relationship, unless i feel i can like that person too... because i don't want to break hearts, in case i met the person i really like after.

Right now.. I feel everything is boring. Things i say. Things I do. I have no interest in doing anything. I find it hard to trust.. It's like i lost my mojo.. my confidence.. it's like i'm desperate.. i always look at a girl and see if they are potentials.. I don't know guys. I feel... I don't know what to feel..

ya gotta get the pussy off the pedestal. I think paying a chica to webcam and private chat is a DLV. it sounds like she is the one gaming and in control. take a deep breath and get your head on straight

Mr. Dream:

I know how you feel, it happens to everyone, we reach a point on our lives that we do not know where we are going, or what exactly we want.
When I was in high school I wanted soooo badly to have a Girlfriend, like I was crazy for it, I would "fall in love" with any girl...
Now, girlfriends are not my priority, even though I would like a girlfriend. but I would like one, not for the fact to have sex with her, or make out, mostly what I want now is someone I can have a good time with, someone to talk to, someone that backs me up in what I do, supports me.
My priorities have changed since when I was in high school to now. I'm on my 2nd semester of college. I had more girlfriends in 4 months than when I did when I was in high school ( all of HS).
I can totally relate to you, one night stands are not my type of person. I probably wouldn't do it if I had the chance (Who knows in the future) ... Sometimes you must experience this bitter moments, in your dating life and in your life in general, so you can enjoy the sweeter moments. If you learn to smile in hard moments you will smile in good moments.
What I do now, is.. I just don't care whether or not I get a girl or not. I do my thing, girls are not a priority in my life, YES, it is nice to have a girl to make out, but its even better to have a girlfriend that cares for you, and supports you. This doesn't mean you have to chase her, good things come to those who wait, and they come when less expected.
Try to enjoy your life and don't worry about dating, it will come to you. Feel, don't think, use your instincts, its the only way you can be "free from your mind" and from all the stress and frustration it may cause you. I know that sounds very "spiritual" .. but its true, just let your feelings guide you to what you think is best, keep a smile on your face at all times =)

lostlove:
Lets get rid of The Game rules and terminology for once here, don't come off with DLV, DHV stuff, this isn't really about who is gaming who. =)

Dream, get out of the house serious. It sounds like you been coop up in the house for way to long of a time and it is getting to you. You don't even need to game girls in public. Just get out of the house.

Dude exactly at the ending is where Style describes that is awesome to have lifestyle rather than one night stands, sorta

Okay can you please break it down how you managed to get that girl to MSN?

You know what would be funny guys if someone invented a proven method that will get thus online girls on the porn sites to actually come out and meet you, that would be fun, haha

HOW TO PICK UP A PORN STAR WHILE SHE IS ONLINE hahaha

this thread made my night hahaha

dude one advice: get out of the house !

V3nu

Okay, for one thing.. I am currently in uni. So yes, I am out of my house most of the time as i have at least 40 contact hours of uni.

In first year, and all.. I had a lot of girls around me.. But I never committed. By the way Adilinar, i am not looking for one night stands.. I am really just lookign for what you're exactly looking for, but I've just been looking for that from the beginning.. with the right person. The first girl i was with... she's still in my head.. but we aren't even proper friends.. because she has a bf. One day, she just felt bad doing this to her bf.. so she couldn't see me anymore, even as a friend because it reminded her of what she's done...

In your terms, I probably really had GAME before. The girls that like me before, whom which i never progressed with, now have their bfs.. but they all think I am popular and have girls everywhere.. But.. this is a very reason more, I can' show my weak side.. I feel like there's no one to talk to.

But thanks guys, thanks Adilinar.. I guess i really need to change my frame of mind and just feel eh...

And with msn, V3nu, I don't know.. It kinda just happened.. I wasn't even trying to game... I never did. If i actually liked a girl.. I usuaally fail.. Usually what happens in my life is, i think this girl is pretty/hot, whatever, but didn't see her as a gf potential, things tend to click and go really well.

But for girls i tend to like.. i think i turn into an opposite of a magnet. or maybe it's just me.

*dbl

dude hate to break your hardcore game but. Shes an ewhore!! Guy or girl either way might be a guy on msn who tells the girl in chat to play along to get money.

Thank you flybeta, now I know how to make some extra money haha

And Dream from your last post, you sound REALLY depressed, it's transparent even in your writing ....

V3nu