All these bootcamps are so damn expensive and they only last for 2 days, I mean a bootcamp for 2 a 3000 euro's is insane much... These guys teaching these bootcamps are good, but is it not more for their own sake than for ours... I mean, no offense, but 2 days cant be enough to become very good at this, what will it contribute besides they will push you to approach and for their own money...

I mean, I am thinking about joining a bootcamp, but for this price I think it is not worth it at all.... FAR NOT

What do you guys think about this??

Jas

3000 euros for a bootcamp is insanely much. Yes. ive never seen a bootcamp cost that much.

But not all bootcamps cost this much, far from.

They are expensive but you are paying for the personal experience of the tutor, and you are paying him for the hundreds of hundreds of times he has failed in order to find out what is right. You are paying him for the hundreds of hundreds of hours he has spent in the field in order to be able to teach you.

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Official bootcamps are part of the seduction business. They charge so much because they can.

We need more experienced guys (naturals) to volunteer for free co-op bootcamps. Ultimately with the rapid expansion of the PUA subculture this is where we're headed. I'll make sure of that.

Until then enjoy "practicing" on your own/with friends and enjoying open source/giveaway materials.

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Official bootcamps are part of the seduction business. They charge so much because they can.

We need more experienced guys (naturals) to volunteer for free co-op bootcamps. Ultimately with the rapid expansion of the PUA subculture this is where we're headed. I'll make sure of that.

Until then enjoy "practicing" on your own/with friends and enjoying open source/giveaway materials.

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Yesss, It is insane, definately when I am very good at this and I am able to give workshops or something I am definately not going to charge this MUCH... It is very ridiculous. I really want to help these guys and not just for my own sake... The honor of helping them and make them feel good about really progressing will be very good..

Former AFC's think they are heroes now, for charging over 1000 dollar, OMG...

It's a business. You charge what the market can afford. Offer and demand.

Ironicly it plays right into some PUA beliefs. Charging more for your product will DHV it and somewhat give it scarcity. Same thing for many products. Nike shoes cost about 1$ to make. They never would of became what they did by charging 15$ for their shoes. Some people look at the price tag and say "Hey if it's more expensive, it has to be better!".

another reason why it costs so much is that you're REALLY investing yourself in pick up.

if bootcamps were free, or really cheap, its a small investment, meaning lots of guys that end up never following through.

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Because they are banking on how desperate guys are to learn this stuff. Whether you succeed or not doesn't bother them because they have their money.

It also means that people are more likely to try their stuff because if you spent so much money you will want to get your money's worth

thats not true of all the trainers out there.

look at Sinn. he just did a series of blog posts on things he learned from his students.

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We do courses for £350 at Get me the Girl. I cant provide links but Google us.

Because Mystery isn't going to waste his time tutoring EACH of you guys for a measly 20-30 grand a month.

There are other people in Hollywood making millions a month and he's making a slim 20-30 grand a month maybe on average.

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Because Mystery isn't going to waste his time tutoring EACH of you guys for a measly 20-30 grand a month.

There are other people in Hollywood making millions a month and he's making a slim 20-30 grand a month maybe on average.

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I would highly suggest watching videos on pick up/ etc

EASIEST / Cheapest way to learn PUA

Yeah you can hit the clubs all day 24/7 but it wouldn't help you improve.

Perfect practice makes perfect.

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tell me about it guys, i was really interested when i heard about adam lyons running a bootcamp.....then i saw the price, i would love to go to somthing like that and i could probably learn an awful lot, but im a student and £600 + Flights is waaay out of my range, somthing i was considering which ill bring up here (i havent seen any1 mention it in other posts) Is a trip to somewhwre for around 2 weeks or so, if we could get a group of PUA's and rent a place to stay. We could all analyse our methods and see where we could work it better. like i said I'm not sure if many people will be interested in something like this, its just an idea SPAM but I think it would be a pretty cool thing to do.