My question is "is dating dead?"

Everything I read is about some kinda close in the first night.
So does any type of follow up actually count as a date? I know there's a buncha stuff on "Day 2's" but is the concept of dating really dead now (paying for her meal, taking her to a movie, etc.)?

Could a guy be creative and not seem like a AFC?

No its not.

Im not a 1HQ (1 hit it quit it) type guy.

Just today i saw an HB7 with a cute little booty and a GREAT personality. Apparently shes from alaska and just moved to my area a few months and knows not many people. Nice and polite, i could date someone like that.

-fuzz

Yes you're free to do what you like, and pursue the girls that you think you want a relationship from.

There's no one way to go about doing things, PUA is about making a life for yourself, and getting what you want out of it for the better good.

Great question!

One reason that many PUAs avoid calling what we do "dating", is because it's so easy to fall into some cliche interaction (i.e., coffee + awkward conversation). It all depends on what your personal view of "dating" is, but I would certainly call most of my "day 2" meetings as dates (although if I were asked, I'd probably avoid definiing it, and would simply say "we're just having fun and enjoying eachother's company").

It's all the same thing, calling it something different is just a way to avoid her drawing conclusions and making assumptions. DEFINITELY be creative. I occasionally pay for a meal, but it's a special occasion when I do. As such, it means more when I do it.

In my AFC days I would buy flowers for girls all the time. After weeks of this it was not only unappreciated -- it was EXPECTED. Now I do it very rarely, but when I do something like flowers/dinner out/etc... it's always appreciated SO much more and makes the girl feel special.

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The whole PU part is simply that; it teaches you to pick-up girls. the dating is where you as a real person really comes in i feel. fine, use material still, keep up the c f image or w/e. But i think one of the key parts of the 'game' is to try and be yourself as much as possible. This makes it so much easier. inner game is where it's at. i'm not there yet i dont feel, but hopefuly soon.

I read somewhere that only 10% of # closes actually result in the people ever meeting again. So I think some higher level closing should be our main concern.

Just sucks when you meet a nice girl, and you feel like you don't want to game her and instead open up to her. I try to block those feelings out.

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I sarged some girls around a month ago and now im 'seeing' a HB9 from that group- we hang out, go for walks, coffee etc.. and chill around at my house. But we both pay our own way or take it in turns to pay for stuff. I suppose u could call that dating....