Have any of you ever kissed, fucked, dated a girl who was not really good looking but was confident and just funner to be around? I am just asking this to see how much looks actually matter. Maybe you go to the bar/club and after sarging HB 8.5+ who are all kind of boring you meet this 7.5 who just throws you for one know. Has this ever happened to you?

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ABSOLUTELY !!! Though we keep saying men are visual there are many occassions in which a HB7.5 triggers emotions in you that a HB10 doesn't. It is sooo true. Think about it this way HB10 has a lot of baggage and all she does on a date is talk about daddy issues and ex boyfriend. But now the next day you are out with HB7.5 and she is just full of energy, flirts with you, laughs on your stupid jokes, plays along with your games etc etc...

You had a better time with HB7.5 and hence personality even for girls does matter a lot.

I got news for ya buddy, she just out gamed you shes is a female pick up artist, using her strengths to land guys out of her league .....to me that makes her EVEN MORE ATTRACTIVE

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Yeah How attractive is that !!! I would go out with a HB6 if she has all the right 'moves' to trigger my emotions than with a HB10 with daddy issues.

LMFAO, HAHAAHAHAAHA, That would be fucking brilliant. Holy shit, if I ever met a chick who knew PU and was something like a 6 and could pick up dudes like any of the moderators on this forum can get HBs I would be so fucking overjoyed, or more like beside myself, that would totally rock. Hell, more women should know this because what chick would not want higher quality dudes like we want better looking and more interesting women.

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For me looks are almost all ...

In reality, for us guys, we THINK that looks are the most important thing for us. And for most guys it holds true! But the truth is that we only guide ourselves by our emotions. We see HB10 and we think its going to be awesome, until we know her and her 10 goes down to a 0 because she's totally boring.
Then we meet an HB5, and she is our "obstacle" on our sarge, or maybe you just happen to bump into her, and she BLOWS you away. I mean, she talks with so much confident, she's smart.
More than once I have gone for the HB5 rather than an 8-10 ... because the 5 is usually smarter and can give interesting conversation, with full answers and not just a "yes" or "no" answer.
She triggered your attraction switches just like a PUA does to make a girl attracted to him without been good looking!

sorry but that is just half-true (at least for me)

i wouldnt be with a boring 10, BUT would also not with a 5 with a very interesting person... 7 is the less i would go for.

i think we have 2 points to consider, Sexual attraction, which in males is almost 100% physical and means the interest you have, being a male, in the female.

the other is emotional connection, which is your interest in her as person.

In order to be in her you need sexual attraction, otherwise it wouldnt work, but you also need emotional connection for a relationship.

Of course some guys are less picky than other, i find myself being very picky... cant blame .

Dont forget that the end is reproduction, and mostly what girl has to offer for reprodution is looks, unlike guys.

What are you guys doing !!! Giving a 5 and 6 and 10 to women hahaaa.... Ok here is what I think the original poster wanted to say, you meet HB10 who is great and everything but her friend who is not that great looking but good has a more interesting personality, can hold a great conversation and is humorous, seductive etc etc.. in this senario who would you go for . And hands down I agree that I would go for the great looking girl with personality.

I completely agree with the guy who said that at times you are talking to a super hot girl and after she opens up to you and you are getting to know her the 10 starts dropping down. Thts true. Very true and happens all the time. Here it depends how horney you are and whether you JUST WANT TO GET LAID

Looks matter a lot but at the same time a seductive woman has something about her that draws you and wants you to have her really bad.

I think its ridiculous when guys say they wouldnt date a 5... This is why people "over-neg" so much... because your ego is telling you to rate women way higher then they are. a 5 would be average girl next door looking girl... a 6 is better then most, 7 is getting pretty hot... example: most hired guns will be 6-7, 8 is starting to get really hot... think (hot)strippers or wannabe models, 9's are models or actresses or should be... not like when guys say that to an average girl to hit on them... but like honestly hot enough to do it. 10 is perfection.

The reason this irks me is not because I care so much about people stroking their e-peen... if your doing it for validation then thats just an inner game issue that you should work on... it's the fact that guys (and I have seen this in the field) will see a girl who is below average looking 3-4... but because they arent very experienced with women they will say she's an 8... because the other girls around are 10's or 11's... and then go over there be a dick and try to take her down a peg... when honestly... she's probably pretty insecure anyway.

Not me, I've met a few girls that had amazing personalities and if based upon that I could marry them.

But they were 4-5s >_>

Eh maybe a 7 with a good personality on a slow day.

But rarely.

Looks 95% personality 5%

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I love witty personalities with a sharp edge around them, it keeps things lively. I really don't care what she looks like aslong she isn't horribly disfigured (i know thats harsh, but c'mon...)

Haha I like you.

Try working at a carnival that's where all the disfigured people are. xD

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i got HB 9 lol ..... she talks about her dad and ex boyfriend..... one day she talked so much about her ex it made me wanna dump her lol, i re-framed her story and told my ex was a fucking hot 29 year old ( i was 22 ) which worked at a bank - few hours later i left and never contacted her again .
I got HB 10 lol ..... she lied about everything to maintain her own self esteem , had alot of boyfriends which permanently damaged her and she liked to flirt with other guys as well.

once i had a HB 7.5 / HB 8 ... honesty ... reliabilty ... happy ... not a ton of guys hitting on her when going out.

I'd say find a HB 9 or 10 with a HB 7 personality, normally i wouldn't even try to get a HB 10 because i know 90 % of them are full of shit .... i rather prefer a HB 8.

o yeah a HB 9 and 10 will test your congruence way longer then HB 7 or HB 8, HB 7 or 8 can take up to 6 months maybe less. HB9 and HB 10 will test your congruence for a year or longer

What most men are having troubles figuring out is that we as well as women have emotional triggers. We just approach due to looks and after that the game is on. I have encountered insanely seductive girls that normally isn't my type. I've also known incredibly good looking girls that I didn't feel anything at all for.

My point is, you do your initial judgment based on looks. Same goes for women, but they approach far less. After this you try to establish an emotional connection. This is the main factor for attraction, and saying that looks are most of the importance is simply narrow-sighted in my opinion.

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