I honestly don't think I did much taught in the community when she and I talked, despite having read material from different people over the years. It's a very long story with a lot of non-game portion but my friends found it funny, so here's the disaster

A few weeks back I went to a strip club. There was a cute stripper that, to me, looked like a Latina. Curly black hair, big almond eyes, cute little nose, full lips, great smile, thick but not fat body. She was chatting with a group of guys and I made eye contact with her. I held it until she looked away. Didn't look at her after that, except from a mirrorred wall to see what she was doing. When the guys left she immediately approached me to start talking. I didn't look at her until she said hi to me.

Turns out she was eastern European and 21. I didn't run any Mystery style game, I completely forgot about it. I did attempt more of the Juggler/Feel the Vibe conversation, although my skills suck. I tried to avoid boring conversation, ask interesting questions, trying to connect, etc. Found out she was here for the summer to earn money before going back home to continue going to school. At some point dancing came up and I told her I can't dance and we should take a dance class together. She seemed really into it. I made the first mistake of saying I'd pay .I thought the price was really high and she wouldn't go for it if she was to pay her way but it turns out price was cheap. She asked for my number and took it down saying she'd call in 4 days, but she refused to give me hers as she claimed she didn't give hers out. I didn't push the issue figuring it was a blow off. Mistake 2: I got a dance from her. I did cause I figured this wouldn't go anywhere, she was just hustling me and I wanted a dance anyway. It was OK. She was teasing me and whatnot. Coming in for a kiss then backing away. Rubbing noses, biting my nose at some point. There was tongue to tongue contact once when I figured out the pattern but she said it didn't count cause her eyes were closed. That was the end I thought.

No call on the 4th day like I figured. But to my surprise, she calls on the 5th day and is still into it. We arrange to meet the next day for a free intro class in the big apple (I live 15 mintes away) in the evening. That day I only have a few tasks: Drive 90 miles on an errand, Drive back home, Get ready, Meet up with her. Nothing else to do all day.

Mistake 3: With 5 hours before meeting time, I start the errand thinking I'll be home in 3 hours. 4 hours, 20 minutes later I make it home. No time to even shower or shave, I sprint out the door to the nearest bus stop. The only bus that's coming anytime soon is going to take the long, long way that takes close to an hour instead of express 15 minutes. I can only get to the city 20 minutes after we were supposed to meet so I call her and leave a voice message.

She calls me back, I let her know the situation. She says she'll stick around for a bit. Bus takes extra long and by the time I'm in the city she's tired of waiting and tells me she's off to Union Square. I tell her I'll be there. I have a hard time finding Union Square from the subway, taking extra long to find the right lines and even then I end up at a stop 10 blocks away. I end up taking a taxi and by the time I get to the square and call her she sighs and tells me she was already walking away. She must've been close cause she tells me were to wait. I guess she came back out of pity and 'cause her day had been wasted anyway. 5 minutes later she shows up with something of a playful annoyed look. She was looking absolutely fantastic. This was ninety something minutes after we were supposed to meet.

This is where having some sort of game would've helped. We did talk for two hours with very few awkward pauses but I didn't run any sort of games, do any escalation, DHVs, etc. But I tried to keep it fun and be cocky/funny and I think it worked at times. She played along for a bit. For example, when she complained about possible issues when she gets home in Europe I accused her of being a dangerous criminal. She played along claiming to be a white slave trader that could give me some good discounts on organs. At another point she implied she was carrying a weapon in her purse and we wrestled for control of it while she laughed uncontrollably. I busted on her once for her replying to a question with "That's a stupid questions!" (had to do with language barrier, not mean). She was definitely laughing here and there. She told me a secret about herself at some point too as well as things she wants to try(comfort?). I also tried to find middle ground with her and relate. We talked about family and other stuff. I'd say it was mostly amateurish fluff talk even though I tried not to be boring. I didn't even give any indicators of interest when there were obvious possibilities. At some point we were interrupted by a pair with a camera who told her they were from a modeling agency and thought she was beautiful They took her info. Perhaps a common scam, but I can see her as a model. She just has a beautiful face. IOI could've been dropped somewhere.

Also at one point we walked around and talked. I didn't do much kino, yet another mistake. A few seconds of hand holding when I busted on her for her tiny hands, arm around her very briefly when apologizing for being late and at one other point, and when we fought over the "weapon". That's it. Nothing else. I should've done a ton more kino.

At the end of this disaster when we were going to separate she offfers a hardy handshake. Ugh. I pulled her in for a kiss on the cheek to save some face but it was a weak move. She told me to call her.

I texted her the next day regarding the names of a european book and movie she recommended. I tried to be funny in the text and she replied that my message was cute and told me to find the movie. That's the last I heard from her. I texted back saying once I find the movie we'll watch it together, no reply. Texted her the day after that saying I had found it, no reply. Next day (yesterday) I called in the evening, it rang to voicemail but I didn't leave a message. 3 hours later I left a message apologizing for having been late and saying I still had fun and would love to hang out again. I asked when she was available. I told her she was interesting and perhaps dangerous. I said I'd show up on time and she could be two hours late if she wanted. Also said not to bring any weapons and finished by telling her to let me know. Two days have passed and no call back from her so that pretty much means the end. Probably a combination of me not being compelling and her sensing desperation.

Regrettably, I'll probably never see her again. Which is a shame as she really was interesting and fun. I figure the only reason she was gonna meet me in the first place was for dance lessons, not to see me so without that she's got no reason to call. Things I learned: I have very weak game, I forget everything in the heat of the moment, I am not a very interesting person. I need more hobbies and life experiences so I'm not boring.

Hey man, It's not a defeat. You learned something about yourself that is going to improve your game from now on.
Plus dude, you bagged a 'Hired gun' for a day 2. That's a victory in itself.
Don't think of the short end, think about how much your overall game improved because of this...

dont get yourself down. yeah you need alot of practice but who doesnt. this was a great lesson for you. For what its worth, I would be hesitant to meet a stripper at a club, she's there for money not to meet guys. She probably just wanted free dance lessons from you.

That's true but I figured I needed the dance lessons as something to make me stand out. Considering she's a stripper she gets hit on all the time and I bet usually it's nothing original. She definitely seemed like a normal girl, not the stereotypical crazy stripper.

You guys are right though, definitely a learning experience and everyone tells me it's a great story. I know it won't lead anywhere but I'll call one more time than drop it.

DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT call her again. The more you call the lower your value goes.She is going to start thinking your a stucker, especialy if she is a stripper.

I'm right around your level of game. Maybe older and somewhat more confident. All you can do is study and practice. You DLV'd yourself so many times it's hard to see where she would feel the attraction. Don't spend a dime on her. One basic rule is pay for nothing, remember, you are the prize.

I find I'm not as horny as when I was younger, and, if I don't feel like running game I just allow myself to be relatively honest and use the woman as a sounding board. Of course attraction goes out the window, but it's what I want at the time. Who knows, maybe you've made a friend (usually not). But it's cheaper than a therapist...lol.

Occasionally, being honest about yourself is attractive, but, in my experience and in the experience of millions of AFCs being honest is boring to women. The haven't earned the right to know much about you. Once they feel they know you, you've lost your mystery, and you are blurred into oblivion.

Part of Mystery's success is that when he games someone he is a MYSTERY. A tall dude with eyeliner, a hat, rings, etc, and he negs women constantly making them work for every piece of info. Women are by nature curious creatures, and by not telling them much about you, rather, using the conversation to neg them and DHV yourself, it leads to more attraction.

It's a primal thing--women settle down with the Beta male and stray with the Alpha male. The alpha male is a mystery, he's confident, and he's competent in the social sphere. Human females are programed to stray around the time of ovulation (I saw this on a very scientific TV documentary on human sexuality).

With a hired gun, if I remember things correctly, you have to neg them harder.

I forgot too where I read it. But you do have to NEG a lot with them to initially DLV them to just under your level. But there is a very fine line with hired guns. While they have LSE, they still possess inherent DHV about themselves because of their body and constant DHV from other men. A tricky combination that has to be kept in check constantly.