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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:15 am 
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So heres the problem:
I go out to a bar with a couple of buddies of mine for a fun guys night out. We weren't really looking to pick up girls, just to get drunk and be idiots for the night. So I look like shit with my basket ball shorts that havent been washed for 3 days and a shitty t shirt on (Hollister and tight on me). So we're all having a good time and keep jokin around how my friend should go flirt with these girls across from us. Then the bartender comes out of no where and says that one of the girls wants to buy me a drink. He pointed her out and she was a 8-9 in my book. I accept the drink and buy her one. I see that the girl is with two of her friends a guy and a girl. So I say fuck it, and I head over there to talk to her. I introduce myself to the group making to talk to each one to get a little convo going with each. It turned out that the guy and the bitchy girlfriend were assholes but i shrugged it off like it didnt bother me(made fun of my school, job, and leaving early since i had work 6am). Things went great couple of bumps but went smooth and she seemed to like me. I asked her for her number and she said "Yeah, def give me a call sometime." So the next day i didnt get to contact her because i had work and AC which my phone was dead. Day two i began to text her but it didnt seem like she was interested. She was giving me one word answers and not throwing questions back at me except for "how r u." Day three i texted her for a little bit nothing big and i asked her when was the next time she'll b back in town since she lived about 1 hour up north. Never got a texted back...

Is there something that I did wrong? I mean why would she give me her number if she didnt want to talk to me? Do you think I should have called here?
please help!
I was thinking about calling her today but i dont know if that would b awkward...


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:04 am 
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You didnt build enough comfort, make a connection. Thats all i know.

Im no expert at it, if someone else could maybe explain what you could have done, thatd be great.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 12:44 pm 
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Why didn't you CALL her?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:09 pm 
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Hi there,

you wrote: " I mean why would she give me her number if she didnt want to talk to me?"

Well I number close quite a lot these days, and I get to ask myself this question about 5 times a month now. Some of the number closes just don't turn into good communication that creates the possibility of a day 2.

Example. Last friday a HB 8 stops me dead im my tracks on a festival. She litterly puts her hands on my chest, and tells me her friend a HB 6 was checking me out for a while, but was afraid to approach me. WTF, right? So, time constraint, told her I had to go and was willing to date her. To make her comfortable I even told her that I do blind dates a lot and she should just see this as a blind date with a guy of wich she knows he looks good. So easy number close, took only a minute.

Now I handle a "three flakes, you're out" strategy. (i got it from a MPUA don't remember wich one). So if a girl failes to respond three times to a attempt to contact. Text, phone call, e-mail or whatever. She's out. I stop giving attention.

Now I've met the girl above on friday and texted her sunday. And rang her on monday. No response. Now this is weird, because she was the one showing interest right?

Wrong! Here's what you should know about flakes:

1. The girl might have another guy on her mind and communicating with you makes heer feel slutty or oncomfortable.

2. She does not know what to communicate and she decides to not communicate at all.

3. She's the busy type that keeps postponing contactmoments and trusts on the PUA to make the conctacts and keep the frame in the communication.

4. technical difficulties (this happens to the hottest ones for some reason!)

5. The HB re-evaluated the day 1 in her mind and has gotten negative or fearful about a day 2. "this is actually a complete stranger? why would I let him in my house? What if he rapes me or something!". Woman have automated defense systems in their brain that spawn these kind of silly thoughts.

Most of this is based on experience and some on speculation... but I think this is how flakes usually go down. No the trick is comfort indeed. All 5 thins above are about comfort. They see contact as a challange, a trial. You do not want this of course.

Some tips:

Make all texts cocky funny, or at least funny. DONT TEXT UNTIL SOMETHING FUNNY POPS UP! This makes texting fun, you'll be surprised on how funny return comments can be.

Freeze outs! If you show you can do without texting the girl a couple of weeks and then say. " hey whats up?" there more likely to respond.

Never call the first time! For some reason, this sometimes freaks people out. Especially people under 25, prefer texts. Very weird I know, but I have had some weird experiences with women who would not pick up the phone, but would only minutes later respond to a text I sent right after.

Anyway. I think your problem is the number 5 I described above. Because you were drunk. She has estimated you as a cool guy and all, and likes it to know someone in town probably. But has reevalueted your behaviour, AND RE-REEVALUATED IT RIGHT AFTER THE TEXTS!

No big deal though. I wouldn call her yet. She's not responding, so lets just say shes busy.

Now freeze her out for a while, she probably visits your town about once a month I guess. So wait for a week or so.

Hope this works out for ye, sorry for the rambling on from my part. But I had 5 (five!) dates lined up last week and all five cancelled or stopped communicating. So I'm a bit frustrated with this aspect of PUA, but as long as you don't see flakes as failing, but as a learning experience, its actually quite fun and will prevent future mistakes.

Good luck!

BUcc


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:53 am 
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nice post buccanner...to add to your list of 5 points...

6. girls give their number out all the time not cos theyre interested, but because they dont want to be rude and cause confrontation. My girl friends do this all the time!


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:36 am 
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Ahh vision way to put me down lol :( Anyway thanks for the replys guys, I gave up on her anyway.NEXT!


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:15 am 
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I'm not saying this necessarily happened in your case (point 6), however it sounds like you didnt dispay enough value and hence create that attraction, which ultimately would make her WANT you to call. Remember you need to give her a reason to want to see you again. Its great that you had a little chit chat with her, you probably even got rapport going, what you probably didnt do is spark that attraction by teasing her, DHVing etc. How did your convo go? were you speaking to her like she was your buddy or were you teasing her and joking around? Also, the fact that her mates (the assholes) were making fun of your job etc. means that you clearly didnt get their approval. Even though they were assholes they were her friends, and you (normally) need to get approval from her friends in order to get approval from her.


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