i think it depends what you are trying to achieve, are you looking just to get good with girls to lose your virginity and be the next guy to join the world wide pussy chase in order to boost ure ego and become essentially a c*&t?
(if its ure virginity its not a big deal, u will realise that when it happens, if your just worried about it not happening for u wen ure m8s are getting laid and u just want to fit in, theyll prolly end up with chlamydia anyway)

or are you in here to develop as a human being and are looking for tools to help you establish a healthy emotional bonds with other people?

i think that if you will apply game in school at age 14 you wont get good results, seeing as all the girls are nowere near mature enough(socially and mentally).

as to arguments about starting early not to have the regrets of school time, I recently gamed an 18 year old, im 21. never go for younger chicks as a genneral rule but....i had to try it, It was the moment like being back at that age round 3-4 years ago again, but this time i had the balls and some skills to talk to this insanly hot girl and god was i dissapointed, she ended up soo boring my mind was hurting with the effort to even make conversation.

realised that these girls r not as fun to hang out with as i thought they would be and glad i didint befriend them at a young age as they would have infulenced me in a negative sense and would have wound up following a social modeled group like everyone else, hanging out with people for the sake of a social boost, bitch talking all the awesome stuff you get from immature people, because i didint i was able to grow up outside the group, developed my own personality and individuality. it means i dont know how to be part of the group now, however im here to fix it and doing it in MY own reality on my terms. dunno if that makes any sense, it does in my head anyway



I'm new to the game myself but have a lot of respect for a good few of the people here, take the advice of the guys here and just develop socially, friends are always good to have, i know it has been working for me.

you will do what you will do anyway and people telling you what to do wont change your mind in the slightest seeing as, what do they know anyway rite?

you said you were mature, dosent change the fact people around you in ure age group are probably not! but if you were genuine about asking for advice from some of the most experianced people in, life, the world of pick up, and sociall interactions than you should be mature enough to follow their advice!


good luck!
and what the other dude said about being a young jedi!!!

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if i have miss-spelled something its not because im stupid its because i cant be bothered to spell stuff properly while trying to type as fast as humanly possible

Cidane, why are you jacking this thread? You chat too much and you wrote too much and you worry too much. You don't ask a girl to be in a relationship with you. . . you just make the relationship. You don't need her permission.

Nobody should be "focusing" on PU . . . unless you teach this stuff or you have a history of really sucking at it.

Pick Up, to me anyways, is more than just "getting chicks" but when you boil it down, it just amounts to a chat with a chick. . . and I don't think 14 is to young to do that.

At 14, the most important thing to learn is that it's OK to communicate with girls, as it is OK to communicate with ALL people of all ages, sizes, shapes, from all cultures. It's important to learn that nobody is too pretty, too ugly, too smart, too dumb, too old, too young, too rich, too poor, too ANYTHING to befriend. Make friends . . .

I am lucky enough to have some great friends of all walks of life scattered all throughout the World . . . but my best and closest friends are the friends that I met at a young age. 14 is a great time to make friends for life but it's also possible to create misunderstandings that can also last a lifetime. Pretty girls at this age can become physically unattractive at 21 and vice versa. What you think of as "dorky" people can become incredibly cool and vice versa. We are social animals. Strong friends of both sexes will be the greatest gift you can give yourself. 14 is a great time to learn how to make great friends.

im not 14!!! im 16!!! i have two years under my belt the guy that post this was 14 im in high school

o and sorry i didnt mean to post that on here i meant to put it on another thread
oops

like i said im not tryin to put my name out there as a PUA

i learned the skills and combine them with my own. and i know about the path it can take me, and like hell im going down it

im not just some 16 year old kid that going to hump every attractive girl i see.

i mean dam people i have standards

seriously i was taught better than that.

but what this is all taught me is how to read and understanding of girls

maybe your right, if i just would have waited i could have become a natural.

but i needed change now, i needed to break te cycle of bad relationships. i felt if i could get rid of them now (and i know there will be bad relationships to come) i could cut them down at a very low level

for once i needed to help myself, and so i started learning it

i dont look at PUA as a hobby, more like a social skill

Cidane,

In my previous post, only the first paragraph was directed at you. . . and I still think it's very important that you think about it.

yah your right about the relationship thing but hey im still learning thanks for the advice

yah i have a bad habit of over thinking stuff

thanks

I thought you and Chief were atleast 25. Not my age or a bit younger

thats part of the reason I think people can be to young.

I consider myself to be an infant in this community... so when someone younger than me appears it makes me feel a bit Do they really have the maturity to be here?

Do you think you found PU too early? Suppose it also depends how you react to it, you don't seem to have became a cunt

And at our age we have little life experience as it is... Someone many years our junior has hardly lived. I'm sure most people joined the community after a rough relationship or break up, at 14, you won't have had anything like it.

Can I call you kiddo?

Much Fear i sense in him...

Honestly it's too easy to fall into the darkside of PU especially when you're so young and inexperienced. You might think... oh I'm mature and strong. Take it from me, Im 28 and i have to hold my PU self back sometimes.

If you start at that age you will become a fully fledged PU but at the cost of your identity.

On the topic of Sinn's suicide attempt.. Remember Mystery tried to kill himself a few times too and he would have succeeded if it wasn't for "friends".

You guys are giving PU too much credit. It still boils down to a simple chat with a chick. That's about it.

you guys talk about it, but why have they been trying to kill themselves?

one thing i noticed and want to comfirm is that it seems like the major pickup artist (sinn,mystery) are looking for a perfect girl and theve seen it all so they try to kill themselves?


becuase they say that those PUA slept and went out with 1000s of women and they're still doing PU?

so is this the darkside of PU? never being happy with just one girl?

Their problems after thier success were not related to women.

Know i wanna know, wtf is the darkside of Pick up? And how can there be one?

pleas explain clearly

Ok, I gotta run to an a photo shoot so I gotta make this quick...

The darkside of pickup is that it can make you a robotic, insecure, validation seeking, value seeking, rude, tragically unhappy person.

I know because it happened to me while I was sleeping with over 50 girls a year and making money teaching workshops across the globe. A dream scenario for many of you reading this...

However internally I was a by product of the mystery method's unintended side effects, namely becoming outcome dependent, in constant need of female validation and unable to socialize outside of cold approaches.

A lot of this came from the fact that I got involved in the community at 19.

Because of that I never got a normal chance to develop socially. Trust me you NEED this adjustment period. Almost all of the guys who have really bad breakdowns got into it too young. Before they were mature enough to handle it.

This is why I try to steer guys away from this stuff until they're over 25.

Being a virgin at 16 isn't weird...

There's a ton of other things you can do to meet girls and get a girlfriend that are better than pickup at 16. Seriously, before you get to hardcore into pickup, join organizations, make a good group of male and female friends, take up a musical instrument or start throwing parties, and see if you still have these problems.

Best

JS