Hi guys,

I need some help. I'm new here and just started to watch some vids from PUA's.
So.. I don't know this girl very long and mainly talked to her on the internet/chat.
She's a friend of the girlfriend of a friend of mine. She is going out saturday night and asked me to come aswell.(IOI?) It's a foamparty..
I said to ask my friends if they can, and then let her know I'm coming too.

Now the problem:
She's cute and I don't wanna mess this up. I also don't wanna end up being only friends. How should I handle this and build some attraction?
Should I escalate kino? enz.

It's saturday night in the Netherlands, so I got to whole days to prepare..

Thanks,
Alex

She's a friend of the girlfriend of a friend of mine. <---- WTF?

Ok first off the important thing is to be a confident alpha male around this girl. Be the life of the party and always seem as though you are having a great time. If she is very attractive don't be afraid to negg her. Also its important that you build value with this girl through story's or whatever your comfortable with. Make friend with the people in the group so when you do isolate her the group wont have an issue with it.
From there hold a conversation with her as though you genuinely care about what she has to say. While this is going on you should be building kino.

This may help. Go on youtube and search extramask auto files.. there are some fun playful routines on there that you can do with her.


Good luck im sure you will do fine

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Thanks, Alias.

lol what i think he meant is the friend of his's buddies g/f. Well there's several things that can happend here. If she looks good and that you wanna game her just follow the basic. Kino build more confort and just have fun with her. Be intresting. Now if she turns out to be the girl that.. well you know you dont wanna game. Still have fun with her but you can use her has a pivot or a pawn to open up other sets. If you dont build enough attraction and she puts down the "LJBF" lines like i stated above you can use her as a pivot. only Good outcomes can come of this unless you totally fucced up. Have fun and let us know what happends!

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You just listed a whole bunch of PUA terms and a method ...

the problem of this post is the 'seem as though'
don't do that, instead, HAVE a good time ... BE INTERESTED in what she says only when what she says is interesting, if it's not, you don't have to ACT like you are interested, cut the thread and take control. this way she will see that you are not a fake and when you genuinely LIKE something about her it will be more powerful.
Since it's a foam party you can do alot of thouching, if she has foam on her face, you can wipe it off slow and sensual, if she doesn't have foam on her, just put some on her and than wipe it off ...

I never said seem as though. Reread it.

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Thanks, Alias.

Ok,, soo it was a frustrating night:

So I, with 4 friends, entered the club. There weren't many people, the whole night.
The moment we had contact the first time that night I really didnt know what to say. Later on she came standing next to me and I was out of stories again..

There was a lot of foam and tried teasing her with that. For example by picking her up and lay her under it with a friend.
One time she got some on her eyes. I said: "wait let me" and I removed the foam slowely from her face with my thumb, holding her face.

Every time I tried starting a conversation with her she pretty much ignored it and moved on after giving a short anwser.

So in order to get her attention I went hitting on an other girl. If I wanted to I could kiss close this girl, but I was sticking by my target. My target walked by when I was flirting with the other girl and propably saw it.

Few minutes later she, target, jumped on my back. Me thinking "Yes, it worked. She wants my attention." But right after that she stopped giving attention and moved on.

Meanwhile I was taling with some of her friends, leaving a good impression of me for acceptance.

At the and of the night I was sitting next to her. I tried some pick-up lines in order to get an kiss-close. I tried: Are you impulsive? Are you seeing any nice guys in here?(like where she is attracted to) On a scale from one to ten, how good of a kisser are you?
She anwsered with a No or Zero. There werent any moments of direct eye contact.

I spoke to one of her friends and she asked me:
Her Friend: Did you kiss judy yet?
Me: No
Her Friend: Ok, I will talk to her.
Me: She is difficult.
Her Friend: Yeah, she usually is Hard to Get.

Even her friend asked me if I already kissed her. Come on, that has to mean something!

She lay on a couch totally tired, I sat next to her, bending over her a bit. Stroke her head and asked how she is doing. Still she was not open for a kiss.. Strange?

Give me advice on what I did wrong. I personnely think that it was just her.. playing REALLY hard to get was the problem. The other random girl was no problem..

Alex

Escalate the Kino!!!!!!!!

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Dude, its stopped being funny.

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Escalate!

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This girl sounds like she has a BIG bitch shield up. When she was blowing you off I would of put myself in a position with someone she was talking to (a friend or whatever) and joined the conversation. Then when I had a chance I would turn something she said and negged her for it. Then I would of kept talking to her friend and excused myself. When she jumped on your back she did want your attention. You were giving her alot of AFC attention from what it sounds like and when you froze her out she didnt like that and got your attention back. You should of given her attention again on your time not hers.

There's a theory I have that's call the "Red Ball Theory" While it mimics many others im sure this is the way I look at a freeze out. Think of the girl as a little kid. Your attention is the red ball... when you give her the red ball (your attention) she can do whatever the fuck she wants with it if you let her. When you take that ball away from her like a little kid she is going to want it back. If you give it to another she is going to go out of her way to get that red ball back. The thing you need to remember here is that red ball is yours and your doing her a favor by letting her have it. You need to be an alpha male.. as though you dont give a shit if you talk to her or not. You have to come off like you are used to girls like her and that you can get another one very easily. Make her fight for your attention.

I hope that helps you... and if you have any other questions ill be happy to help as best I can.

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Thanks, Alias.

Three things:

1)Don't ever tell a girl you have to ask your friends to see if they are coming as well. (It shows sissy characteristics)

2)Don't pre-plan or analyze anything (just go in there to have a good time)

3)Don't worry about Kino (this is where most guys mess it up)

If the mood is right, then you'll know.

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1) I agree with..

2) I somewhat agree with.. You dont have to plan out every move but have a general idea of your intentions.

3) What are you talking about on this one? Dont be creepy when touching a girl.. but a good amount of kino can really help build an attraction twords you. Its a vidal tool when trying to attract a female.

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Thanks, Alias.

^^ya man, naturally kino'ing is KKEEYY!!!

You have to be the life of the party man, don't even talk to he for most of the night, I'd shoot for not talking to her for the frist half of the night. Talk to other girls the whole time. Act not interested until you have her alone. Then you will have her where you want her.

Also, with all those "pua" questions you asked her, they only work if you are congruent with yourself. so if you are the life of the party doing outrageous things all night and have high value, then you can ask those questions. But if you're going AFC for any significant chunk of the night, it will backfire. just like peacocking too heavily and not staying congruent.

Ok...this is going to sound a bit out there but bear with me. We are all animals...that simple. We do most of our communication without verbal cues. We can literally smell and feel attraction for each other.

Now lets apply that to the situation. This girl most def has a huge bitch shield up. However, the uneasy attitude and nervousness you brought to the bar probably didn't help. You have to feel confident and literally be oozing confience. The moment you start to question yourself and if you will "mess this up" its all over. She is like a dog and will smell your fear and tear you to pieces (especially a girl with her level of bitchiness). So what if you mess up the situation. Will your life continue? Will the sun rise tomorrow? Of course. Don't let this one girl dictate how you feel as a person. She cannot make you and she cannot break you. I think it was Style that said you have to willing to lose the girl forever in order to get the girl. Your mindset should be "well if she doesn't want it her loss" NOT "I hope I don't blow this".

This girl likes you atleast at some level but there comes a time when you have to trust that feeling in your gut and go for it. Kino is important and while I don't agree with the one line responese ESCALATE! as a solution to all of life's problems, I do agree with the comment earlier that it is tool that needs to be used but with candid discretion. Help her to feel comfortable by being confident. Also, silence in the conversation can be a powerful way of building tension if done right. Don't worry about constantly telling her stories. You are not her entertainment for the evening you are a man out to have a good time and she just happens to be along.