im at the mall and i see this stunning indian woman. easily a 9, maybe a 10. i stole a glance at her. but it was hilarious because here she is at the mall getting ice cream and she had these 4 inch heels and a very sexy outfit fit for the dance club.....but shes at the mall? so basically shes being obnoxiously hot. no one wears high heels to the mall. maybe she was looking for attention, but how does she expect a guy to approach her without looking like he has an agenda?! any guy who walks up to her would clearly be hitting on her and she would know it. im not at the point where im ready to make an approach but im close. what i do is i imagine how i would do the approach her, without doing it..just for practice. but when i imagined an opener i blanked. i couldnt go direct, shes a 10. but if i go indirect i look like im making an excuse to talk to her, which would lower my value. whats a pua to do?

I love hot indian women. they have beautiful hair and are not skinny. Pakistanis and arabic women are the same. IN this case I dont know I would probably just go upto her and hit on her.

Why the f**k must you rationalize things sooo much. Just do it for god's sake. You cant keep thinking like that. Even if she knows you are hitting on her it doesn't matter that doesn't mean she will shoot you down.

You sound like a good guy but just do it and forget about all the theories and contradicting theories

Just approach direct. Maybe you get blown out. Who cares? You're a man of action, not a man who sits around debating and overthinking things.

"You don't regret the shots you took and missed. You regret the shots you never took."

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Have a question for me? Post it to the forum and then PM me the link and i'll reply with my 2 cents.

I and dj fuji have the same viewpoint on this

You let you mind over rule your emotions. Don't think react!

its not so much that im afraid but more on me wanting to make a good approach. i just wanted to see what would be the best way to successfully pick up a try-hard but sexy indian girl. i get your point tho, its try and see what happens.

So it doesn't sound like you opened her, meaning right now you don't have her number or a date with her... in fact, you may never see her again.

Question: if you were to have approached her and she ended up shooting your approach down, would you be in the same situation?

Answer: Yes, you would be in the same situation.

Either way, you are in the same boat. Getting your approach shot down is much better than not approaching at all. At least if you approach, you allow her the chance to enter your world. If she doesn't go for it, remember it is her loss and not yours.

Notice how I bolded the phrase your approach. I did this because when you get shot down after opening, they are not rejecting you as a person, they are rejecting how you initiated the conversation. Try out different openers until you find what works well enough for you to keep the conversation going.

When this happens and you pretty much go blank.
Try something like this.

You: Hey, Im sorry to bother you. But I really like your shoes, and somehow I get the sense your really into faschion.
Her: thank you..
You: Im actually looking for some new shoes myself, Im not very familliar with this mall, could you recomend a place to go?

Thits could lead into sevreal conversation topics.
And if your bodylanguage is good (almost as if you are first walking away)
she'll not feel weird that you approached her.
You got good taste, she has good taste.

If convo continues maybe do a little neg about her hair.

Now, I know this is in someways very AFC.
But this is something that at least will get you the chance to talk to this girl for two minutes.
Next time around you'll be more confident.

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OK
1. How perceptive are you? Analyze for body language. Does she seem timid? Overly confident? Quietly confident but pleasant? Modify your opener to suit the girl. This is a funny little bit I like to use for overly confident girls in this situation.
Walk up to her after she's bought her ice-cream:
You: Excuse me
Her: *Some sort of acknowledgment of your existence. If she doesn't, just continue*
You: What flavor is that?

Be extra careful not to notice her beauty in anyway. Just pretend like you're infatuated with the ice-cream (lol)

Her: Um...strawberry with a flake
You: You know, that looks damn good, i'm gong to get one.

If you haven't checked her out in this period of time, her confidence will go down. Especially since you seem stoaked in the ice-cream and payed little to no attention to her. Sometime I even just look at the ice-cream and not look at her at all. That look of disappointment and confusion on some of their faces is priceless!

You (returning): *eat a bit of the ice-cream as you walk over* mmm...you know this IS good. You have good taste (no pun)...' and then just ease into conversation. OR you could reply 'Actually, you have horrible taste, this is disgusting *beam *'. This is funny because ice-cream tastes awesome and she know's you're not cereal.

ANYWHOO, a little off-track there..

2. Don't over analyze, please. If anything this is shooting you in the foot. Chicks have a sixth sense for these things and can usually tell if you've spend the last hour huddling in the corner trying to thing of the perfect opener. Imperfection IS perfection!

3. You'll know when to slow clap when the time comes Instinct man, instinct is your friend.

4. Be energetic, not hypo, but energetic. Be confident. You're INVITING her into YOUR world! She should be grateful that you chose her ffs! If she shoots you down, obviously she not worth being in your world.

Oh and one last thing. Guys remember to be nice. This is a community of alphas. People trying to better themselves through this brotherhood. Play nice and help fellow travelers along the path to self-improvement. Pussy isn't the goal here, it's just a nice little bonus

Peace

Skittles

Yay, looks like a ride into the friendzone. The gay friendzone.

In this situation just go straight for the kill, we know she has an ego if she was walking around like that so you are going to make her do all the work and walk off slowly, after you are maybe 5 or 10 feet away pull out a cellphone and pretend to answer a text glance around avoid direct eye contact with your target and then slowly put the phone back and begin to walk again. If you had any shot what so ever then she has made her way over to you and struck up conversation, if not it would have been a miss anyway. Girls with an ego are easy to make do the work, however sometimes they just flat out rejcet everything, they have this ego as all they are interested in is getting the guy to flatter over them so they feel good. Don't do it, tell her something like that and walk off this gives you back the power in the situation

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For goodsake man.
If this guy still hasnt gotten over AA do you honestly think
he can pull this off?
Im not arguing your teqniche. Just who you are sayin this to.

The most important thing is to get over AA and do the aproach.
So what if he ends up in the FZ first couple of times?
After gettin confident in creating convo with beautifull women - run more advanced game. Dont start with flyin to the moon.

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No idea what AA and FZ mean, I come from a psych background on all this and am a proffesional date doctor, not a matter of being experinced in these forums. However, in these situations I am of the view dive right in, take a deep breath and take the plunge in a situation like this even if you don't get the girl it's a confidence boost to pull off. Reach for the stars and you'll get to the moon, but if you keep reaching youll get a star sometimes

Signed,
Dr. Highlander

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To Dr. Highlander

Hey man!

Im really interested in knowing a bit more about what kind of work you do,
your views on PUA-game?
What is your knowledge of dating and gaming based on?
Of what I can tell your a bit diffrent from most guys here who has come to this forum in order to learn more about Mystery Method, Natural game, Routines etc.

Would be very interesting to hear a bit more about that!

Cheers!

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I hate saying "excuse me" or "sorry to bother you". Never apologize for approaching. Be decisive.

I like the approach of teasing them when they can be seen as out of place.

"Hey, that's a six inch heel and above ice cream store. I'm going to call the manager"
"If you want to find a really great dance party go to (insert stupid food stand at the mall) I teach break dancing in the stock room"Anything to that effect.

She'll either giggle or give you a sarcastic "shut up". Go from there. Tell her you left your 11 inch heels at home and need her to buy ice cream for you. Propose that she pays. Try and cut her in line. Be different, not the usual guy drooling over her.

In any case, your excuses for not approaching are just excuses. Fall on your face a few times and learn from it if you have to. What's the worst you would have done? Flatter her and make her feel beautiful. Relax

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