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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:32 am 
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I've been studying David DeAngelo's Cocky/Funny approach, and it seems to be working well for me. CF just fits me quite naturally (and I'm discovering there's a lot that I already do quite well).

I'm still gaining steam, but I've got several women chasing me and expressing interest...a couple HB6's, a young HB7, and an HB9. The HB9 is the one I'd actually like to reel in. So far, she's witnessed a chick serenading me in a bar I go to, an HB7 competing with her for my attention, and other women in this meetup group oogling me. 8) The HB7 has some baggage...the HB9 told me "you should go dance with her, she likes you". I said "She's too young for me, I don't want someone I have to train". She got a good laugh out of that (and that was a great C/F response I think). I keep teasing the HB9 that I'm not going to give it up too easy and accusing her of just wanting to sleep with me. LOL.

So, concert coming up...I was planning to have a cocktail party at my house beforehand. I mentioned that to the HB9...she said "Well, I'll come...I guess I'll just leave when you go to the concert." I said "Do you want to go to the concert with me?" She said "Yes". I said "Hmmm...let me see if I can scare up a ticket." (Thinking back, I probably should have said "well, see if you can find a ticket and then I'll let you go with me." LOL.)

So...there's a lot going on that Sat of the concert however...I decided to move the cocktail party from Sat afternoon to Fri night instead. So, what I'm thinking is that I'll email her and ask her which night she'd like to see me, the night of the cocktail party or the night of the concert. I'm implying that she doesn't get to see me both nights and has to choose. (That's maybe just slightly rude since I already invited her to the concert with me and the cocktail party is a public meetup that she can come too without me specifically inviting her.) Now, I'm kinda hoping she'll come back and say "Can't I do both?", but we'll see. I'm thinking that asking her to choose at least says again "I'm a scarce resource and a challenge...you have to compete to get my attention".

Sound like a good choice dudes? Also, if she does indeed respond with "can't I do both?", what do you think would be a good CF response? "Geez, you trying to own me already?" or something like that? Then maybe be sincere and say "Ya know what, maybe I was a little rude in asking you to choose since it was originally one deal. So, yeah, you can do both." What do you guys think would serve me best here?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 10:35 am 
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"Hmmm...2 nights in arow? I have rules about this sort of thing, guess we can take it a night at a time ;)"

or model it around that somehow, but sounds like that all went very well, loved the "Dont wanna have to train her" line, will deffo steal that lol

I would guess she'd choose the cocktail party, since its first, and if she comes to that then Im sure you can find a clever way to make it her Idea to come along to the concert whilst shes there ;)


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Hey, I like your "no two night rule"...I'll probably borrow that. :lol:

So, I told her to choose which she wanted to join me for, the cocktail party or the concert. She said she was definitely coming to the cocktail party, and might go to the concert with some friends. (She asked in the email what she could bring to make me have more fun...LOL...I told her loaded question. She said she'd probably bring her bikini to get in the hot-tub at the cocktail party...this is a very intelligent woman, I think she might be running a little game on me! LOL) She just emailed me tonight to ask if she can tag along for the concert too. Cha-ching...exactly what I wanted her to do, and now it's her idea. :lol: Have to scare up a ticket for her...I should probably tease her about "Will everything with you be this complicated? If so, I want a divorce already." LOL

And...another female acquaintance called me up and wanted to go to the concert with me (she already has her ticket). I'm thinking about taking them both "as friends"...what do you think? LOL...

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Hey, I like your "no two night rule"...I'll probably borrow that. :lol:

So, I told her to choose which she wanted to join me for, the cocktail party or the concert. She said she was definitely coming to the cocktail party, and might go to the concert with some friends. (She asked in the email what she could bring to make me have more fun...LOL...I told her loaded question. She said she'd probably bring her bikini to get in the hot-tub at the cocktail party...this is a very intelligent woman, I think she might be running a little game on me! LOL) She just emailed me tonight to ask if she can tag along for the concert too. Cha-ching...exactly what I wanted her to do, and now it's her idea. :lol: Have to scare up a ticket for her...I should probably tease her about "Will everything with you be this complicated? If so, I want a divorce already." LOL

And...another female acquaintance called me up and wanted to go to the concert with me (she already has her ticket). I'm thinking about taking them both "as friends"...what do you think? LOL...

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Hey, I like your "no two night rule"...I'll probably borrow that. :lol:

So, I told her to choose which she wanted to join me for, the cocktail party or the concert. She said she was definitely coming to the cocktail party, and might go to the concert with some friends. (She asked in the email what she could bring to make me have more fun...LOL...I told her loaded question. She said she'd probably bring her bikini to get in the hot-tub at the cocktail party...this is a very intelligent woman, I think she might be running a little game on me! LOL) She just emailed me tonight to ask if she can tag along for the concert too. Cha-ching...exactly what I wanted her to do, and now it's her idea. :lol: Have to scare up a ticket for her...I should probably tease her about "Will everything with you be this complicated? If so, I want a divorce already." LOL

And...another female acquaintance called me up and wanted to go to the concert with me (she already has her ticket). I'm thinking about taking them both "as friends"...what do you think? LOL...

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Well how far have you gotten with this HB9. What type of kino has taken place? Tell me that, then I can figure out your frame.

It sounds to me you are in C2. When she comes to the cocktail party - show her a "tour of your place" and show her the bedroom and build comfort in there (NO SEDUCTION). This will get her comfortable in your room. Only a few minutes is necessary, then a simple "We should get back to the party, it sounds boring without us".

Then after the concert (you can bring your friend if you think she is not going to cockblock) - kino escalate, take back to your place, comfort is built already, seduction is a smooth transition in the bedroom.

Then send me a PM saying "Boom!"

I will be waiting to smile.


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How far? Well, we're just getting to know each other right now...we've seen each other at a few meetups, we've slow-danced with each other a few times, she met me out for drinks one night, I haven't kissed her yet, she's gotten quite a few innuendo-laden comments from me (she told me to email her or text her when I was leaving from the last meetup we were both at...I said "You mean tonight? I'm not giving it up that easy." LOL). When we talk, she stands very close to me almost touching bodies and stares into my eyes. I'm taking it slow as I'm in no hurry here...I'll keep on teasing her and let the anticipation build up. (This is a mature and intelligent 39 yr old woman, separated at the same time I was, and only now starting to be "ready to date", so I don't want to "game" her in a non-genuine way, she would see right through that. She also knows that I'm not at all sexually conservative from a few posts I've made on a Div/Sep forum, which I'm sure she has read.) I do plan to up the kino this weekend, but only as it "feels right". She's definitely chasing and seeking my approval, so I'm going to give her some approval but still let that continue. I'll bet she tries to impress me tonight at the cocktail party. I like DeAngelo's "two steps forward, one step back" approach...I plan to tease her until she's ready to just pounce on me, and then I'll take her and rip some holes in the sheets. Like I said, I'm in no hurry.

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Ah...discovered a major complication last night. I've tried to up the kino a couple of times now, and she's resistant although it didn't "feel" to me like there was lack of attraction. She separated back in January just like me...turns out her ex is accusing her of co-habitation with some unknown guy (which is BS...she took her kids and moved to her mom's house here in the same city)...he has a private investigator following her to try to get any dirt he can use to "prove" the co-habitation claim. If he finds anything he can use, she could risk losing her kids. Damn. I don't blame her one bit...she HAS to behave well right now. Not sure where to take this one...I wouldn't want to create any harm for her. However, I'm wondering if I can work this to create MORE attraction (presuming the PI following her is a short term thing). Maybe I should tell her something like "no more dates until you're not being followed". Thoughts here?

Regardless, we still had fun at the concert last night. She keeps seeing lots of social proof for me...one of the ladies in the group I hadn't met before (an HB6 or so) didn't realize this HB9 was with me, so she came up to me, introduced herself, flirted like crazy, and essentially asked me if I'd go home with her after the concert...LOL. I'm pretty sure my date overheard all of this.

Here's a little story too funny not to share...someone in the group was passing around a self-adhesive black felt "Groucho Marx" mustache. I grabbed it, stuck it on my date's crotch, and said "Damn girl, you need to shave". LOL. She got a good belly-laugh out of it and said "No wonder I can't get a date".

Opinion on something here please: There was a drunk guy in front of us, hi-fived me a couple times, hi-fived my date a couple times. Then he started turning around, staring at her, singing to her...LOL, etc. I teased her that she was being serenaded. After about 10 minutes of this, I got the vibe that maybe it was making her a little uncomfortable, so in a very pleasant but assertive way I told the guy "Dude, enough already" and gave him a dominant hand-shake. He behaved well the rest of the night. I'm wondering what impression that made on her. I don't want to appear jealous (because I'm not), but I'm hoping it demonstrated social dominance on my part (which I think is probably a good thing for her to see). Thoughts on this part?

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'Nuther question....any thoughts on how to effectively evade a private investigator? Hmmm...this could actually be a little fun if executed right. Disquises, sneaking around...could be exciting.

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Just musing at this point, but here's a little evasion plan:

She knows I think the PI situation sucks...I could text her and say "Do you trust me? Yes or No only!". I would expect her to respond "yes". I'll then text her back to say "Then you'll have to follow my instructions exactly. Check your email".

She would then find something like this in her email (I'll refine it some of course):

What's that old Heart song? "How Do I Get You Alone". I will drop off a bag for you at your work on Tues. In the bag, you'll find a blond curly wig, some "Cher" shade glasses, a pillow, and an obese woman's dress. On Thurs you will take the bag with you and go "shopping" at Mall X. Park near Store X and go into that entrance. Go into one store and buy something (anything), then go to the public restrooms in the food court area. Put on the wig, the pillow, the big dress, and the Cher shades. Stuff the bag under the dress as well. Walk toward store Y and go out exit B...I'll be waiting to pick you up at X o'clock. I'll be in disquise too, so you'll have to look for my car. Don't be late.

I'll be taking you to a nearby hotel where I'll have a room reserved and a bottle of wine waiting. We'll have a candlelight dinner and enjoy each other's company without worries that someone is watching. You might even get serenaded a little, but you'll have to slow dance with me first. I don't intend to dress you in nothing but candlelight this time though...you'll have to wait. However, you can take off the big girl's dress, wig, pillow, and shades if you promise to behave. You'll have to re-garb when we leave the hotel of course. Then I'll take you back to Mall X, you will go to a different public restroom, remove the wig, the dress, the pillow, the Cher shades, put them back in the bag (for next time), and leave the mall.

Reply with a "Hell yeah baby!" now so I'll know we're on.

What to you think? This really appeals to my mischievous side, sneaking around like a couple of teenagers. LOL. (We've hung out with a group several times and been on one date but it was also with a group and we both had to behave well.) I would need to wear a disquise too if for nothing more than effect. (Groucho Marx glasses maybe? LOL.)

I'd rather just bring her to my house since that doesn't cost anything. BUT...it doesn't quite have the same naughty "fantasy value" as a hotel given the situation. (I can make a better dinner than the hotel can I'm sure, but my house just doesn't have the same naughty "fantasy value" that a hotel would, given the situation. A reasonably priced hotel might be worth it....I'll have to think about this one.) I want her totally nervous and so excited she's dripping. LOL. I would plan to play it cool and not try to take her that night (true to my word), but if it happens, it wouldn't be like I'd turn her down. LOL.

Thoughts?
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Whoa self! I think I just caught myself *trying* to revert back to "nice guy" behavior. Let me rethink how to execute this in a CF way instead. :twisted:

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