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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:35 am 
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Hey Guys.
This is a blog post that I have written on oneitis and I have been getting some good feedback from it.
Hope it helps some of you.

ONE-IT-IS
Oneitis gets the best of us. Even if some men will not admit it, there is no man out there who has not felt the backlash with non-mutual infatuation. You might think that she is the "one," but more times than many, she is not. You are caught on the fantasy. You are caught on what you are creating in your mind. For the normally socialized man it may seem like the common thing that happens, but for the guy who is decently successful with women it may come down on them a lot harder. Let's talk about this from a PUA's point of view.

You are quite successful with women. You have been able to seduce the majority of the women you have been interested in. You come across one that seems like she might be a woman who you want to get involved with... but she does not feed back those signals you are giving her. It is important to remember that a woman will pick up on this. Even if it is not a conscious realization, she will know that you are feeding into her ego and it will make her feel special.

There is nothing wrong with making a woman feel special, but if she is not returning those feelings back to you, your inner strength could suffer greatly. By telling yourself that she is far more superior than any other woman out there it will slowly decompose your demeanor. Your actions and proposals to spend time with her will do nothing more than lower your respect and status as a man.

It will make her feel wanted. It will give her more confidence and reassure her that she is wanted by someone. Again I will say that if it is mutual, there is nothing wrong with this. If it is not this situation commonly leads to the man who is suffering from one-it-is to become a backup in the eyes of a woman. He will be used. Even if it is not on a consious level of the woman, it will happen.

Recently, I suffered from a case of this and was thinking about why it happened. Here is a story of mine that will shine some light on your situation.

I have suffered from a strong sense of non-mutual infatuation a number of times and there are things that can be done which will eliminate those strong feelings.
There are ways that you can re-establish your behavior to understand that abundance is key.

I was out at a bar a year ago and noticed a beautiful girl (who appealed to my style competely) and we got into conversing. In a short amount of time we began talking and I noticed that attraction was there. Attraction led into comfort. Comfort led into seclusion. Seclusion led into her boyfriend (who was at the bar) to abruptly interrupt us and break up our interaction.

Initially I knew that it was not a big deal. The interaction was enlightening. I took all of the right steps that I could until her boyfriend came into interrupt. I went on to meeting plenty of other women that night and the months following.

Nine months later I was talking to a friend of mine (female) just so happened to know the situation between the girl I met that night and her boyfriend. They broke up and she was roaming the market.
This friend of mine has given me much insight to the female mind and has always provided me with a different point of view on numerous occasions.

I mentioned to her that I met the girl who broke up with her boyfriend previously and she kept driving into my head that I should try to get involved with her. The initial infatuation was rekindled and this was the spark that ignited the emotional need inside of my mind to pursue and conquer, so I started from where it left off.

We were friends on facebook so I decided to IM and we began to talk. This led into exchanging information, which led to some hot text/phone game on my part which led into going out for drinks.

It was an excellent evening but I started to notice that I was putting so much pressure on the situation just to feel a sense of completion. First night, no kiss, no big deal, she was a bit battered and I was not ready to take advantage of her insecurity.

Next time we got together was just for some coffee. Short. Simple. I made my move, but she seemed extremely nervous so I was not going to be pushy. I had plenty of other women I was involved with, but since she was a challenge I felt compelled to continue.

One evening I was at the bar and she texted me to see what I was doing. I cut the bullshit and told her that we should be hanging out. She picked me up and we went back to her house and had a few drinks. It was a good time. We played some guitar, joked around, and then I began to give her a backrub which I thought was the end. It was not. I started kissing her and she freaked out. She literally got up and said that she had to go and do her laundry.

I am no sucker so I finally took a stand against this developing oneitis and started realizing how foolish all of this was. She drove me home at 5 am and I fell asleep with a small sense of accomplishment, when I usually would not have cared if she came, stayed, layed, or prayed.

Next day she texted me telling me that her shoulders hurt from the backrub so I took it as a hardcore indicator of interest, but now I have realized that was just her way of keeping me hooked on her, without her having an intention of sleeping with me.

We exchanged texts for the next few days until I finally texted her something along the lines of "I am no longer going to make attempts to spend time with you. From now on, you can make the attempts."

She responded with a "Sorry."

That was it. I realized that I was feeding her ego the entire time. She is now in a relationship.
I felt some dissapointment because I finally felt the burn from what I do with the women I am seeing...but.

I am very glad this has happened to me because now I know that there is a large portion of game (on women's part) that is subconsious and they cannot be blamed.

Here are ten tips to follow for getting over oneitis.

1. When you are sensing a lack of returned interest, call it out.
Be a man. Even if she appears to be shy, she is still a woman. Step up. If she is blowing you off, let her know that you would like to spend time with her, but if she does not comply then you have no choice but to move on.

2. Do not become a backup.
The women who I was referring to earlier in the article once sent me a text message at one am. For your everyday guy, it may seem like a ticket into pandora's box, but it truly is a test of your value. Value yourself. If she texts you this later after she has flaked on you, let her know that you are not her backup and she should contact you earlier if she wants to make plans.

3. Talk to Everyone
The quickest way to get over oneitis is to get back out there in field and start meeting women. Talk to EVERYONE.


Here are a few books that I highly recommend to getting back out there after being crippled by a bad case of oneitis.
Tim Pierce's Amazon Book List
These books will get you that kickstart you need to get back into your groove of having a stead flow of women.

4. Cut all Ties
Delete her number. Delete her pictures. Delete the thoughts you have invested in her.

5. Sign up at www.OKCUPID.com
I am not a huge fan of online game, but being signed up for an internet dating website can immensely decrease your chance of being caught into oneitis.

6. Go out one night alone
Go out to a bar alone on a thursday night and enjoy yourself. You will be SURPRISED how many women will actually come onto you. This has helped me many times. Gaming alone is gratifying in more ways that one. A man who can go out alone and enrich his life is a man who is attractive to women.

7. Reframe your lifestyle into an abudance
mentallity
If you are not familiar with NLP then start looking into it. I do not really use it to pick up women but it can be a powerful tool to reframe your thinking in a few moments. Keep telling yourself that it is a numbers game.

8. Logically analyze the women you are hung up on.
She is just ONE girl that you met. Think about how many women you see on a daily basis and then think about what all of them look like naked for one whole day. That will change around your thinking right away.

9. Make the decision that even if she comes onto you again that you will never give her the chance.
You gave her a fair chance. Fool me once, shame on you. fool me twice, shame on me.

10. Do not let any women create your life, let them enrich it.

Follow those ten steps and you will start to notice the tricks that your mind plays on you. These feelings are emotionally driven and by looking at them logically, you can reframe those emotions by stressing the logic.

Good luck on your adventures,

Tim Pierce

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 8:31 pm 
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Hey, liked the article. It's really kinda hard sometimes dealing with this thing but If you just put yourself into it, one can really overcome it. Liked your ten tips.

Talk to everyone; Reframe your lifestyle into an abundance; Do not let any women create your life, let them enrich it.

Damn, these are great!


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:10 pm 
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Yeah, that is a really great list. I have just put it onto a word document. you never know when you are going to need it!!!


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Its a decent article but to be honest, its kind of hard to do all those things when anytime I come across someone that I'm interested that takes interest in me and then goes downhill and something comes up.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:17 am 
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I was looking for a thread that I wrote about one-it-is and found this article and thought I would post my thoughts here.

Long story short - I like this girl/friend that I've been gaming for a month. We talk, we hang out, we email etc. Last time I totally stressed out on her not emailing me back...she did and I realized that I need to stop being a tool.

Or so I thought....

So Sunday night we hang out, increased kino, and I finally get a kiss. I figure the ball is in my court so I give her a ring. I get voicemail and leave a message saying what are you up to.

And so it begins...the second I leave that message I start to freak out. Basically I begin psyching myself into this weird state where I question myself and everything I've done. I'm just anxious for my fix (I have to compare one-it-is to being a drug addict...mostly because without my fix I become a depressed little bitch).

She texts me saying she has a busy week. In my mind I say here is a creative idea, why not do lunch. Is that an AFC move? - maybe/maybe not.

I get an email from her in the morning. She tells me she has an even busier week and can't even make a lunch....then says maybe we can meet up for a group dinner ...or something...

I respond saying had a fun time Sunday night, inside joke, good luck at school (she is taking a weekend class and tells me she is prepping for it...hence her being so busy).

What I know
1 - She is playing me for a fool. I need to remind her and myself that I am not someone who is second class or considered weak. I don't like being told that we will meet on her schedule and I will make that known.

2 - She hasn't been rude yet - in fact when we make plans she is usually polite and like I said she responds to my phone call, text, etc.

BUT let's say she is busy (or worried about a relationship, etc) that shouldn't stop my life. I need to keep living my life and that includes sarging.

Hope this wasn't too much information. I'm finding it's very therapeutic to write this stuff down and any advice or well wishes is always appreciated.

Let's keep it up boys!

Note to self - Snap out of it. There are lots of women, stop letting this women sleep on you and starting sleeping with her (or another women).

Second note to self - Practice what you preach.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:22 am 
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(i see this as relevant to the thread as i like this gal and felt myself sliding into oneitis but recovered quite well)

pharmorjac

your girl sounds similar to a little playa of a girl ive been gaming for about a month...(Except this is how you can not come across as needy...and believe me i like this girl)

I knew she kinda had an issue with the age gap (she is 19 and im 28 ), k-closed once before, but she was being really on and off after the k-close, extremely hard to read (young girls can be sometimes!). she was either insecure and intimidated by my age, or shes just a natural little playa! ...and i'll admit this got me hooked on her (dont get me wrong im still gaming other women at same time of course)

anyway so i called her bluff....i thought fuck this shit i dont need her (even though i want her)...i texted her out of the blue and said...'hey you know what, if age is an issue lets just be friends :)' as if i didnt give a SHIT and that im ok to be friends. at this point I knew that she was still undecided as to whether she wanted to be just friends or not...but i called it first (can be risky but powerful)....she replied saying 'uuuhh ok i guess blahdie blah.' Left it at that. Now you reckon that me calling the LJBF speach put me in the friend zone? not a chance. it just confused her.

i then had a dream about her...so seeing as we are now 'just friends' i dropped her a text msg telling her about my dream...(this is the 4th time ive dreamt of her in 2 weeks! im a pisces and i dream ALOT)...me telling her that i dreamt of her (more than once) is an IOI from my side...then i said 'oh and by the way dont get too excited about me dreaming about you so often, its just a dream afterall!...youve probably just hi-jacked my brain or something! chat soon' (mystery LMR line which popped into my head at the time).

This got her wondering as the 'brain hi-jacking' could come across in more than one way. I had given her mixed signals...first wanting to be friends....then telling her shes on my mind all the time,but in a non-direct way (ie. in the form of a dream), and then directly telling her shes hi-jacked my brain. I left it at that....a week later SHE asked ME out on a date. she realised she was losing me so the only thing she could do to keep me was initiate a meeting and make it happen.

Had i acted like a needy wuss and told her in the beginning that I DONT want to be friends with her and that i want more than that, i doubt she would have stepped up to the plate. My new theory is that its ok to let them know that you are sexually interested (why not youre an alpha male!), but do NOT convey you are chasing them, you really do have better things to do.

I turned her from being this hard to read player that was constantly freezing me out....into a position where she HAD to make a strong and direct move if she wanted a piece of me. and she did, becuase i had built up enough attraction on the night we first met, as well as the 2nd meeting when i k-closed.

though id throw in a little FB tip...
Another thing which works wonders for me is having women crawling all over my facebook wall asking me when we're going partying again and when we're going for drinks etc. I have about 4-5 wall posts at any given time from women requesting that i go partying with them (because of the TYPES of messages i send them..they know me as the party animal and im the first thign on their mind when they want to party)...works like a charm for social proof and pre-selection when a girl that youre gaming inspects your 'wall'. If a girl you are gaming is the slightest bit interested in you...she WILL check your profile, end of story. Make sure it looks good!

(this wasnt meant to be a long post, it kinda just grew...)


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Great Post...it really puts things into perspective. And I like the pre-emptive strike as well.

So this girl has totally started to blow me off. We still meet up at the events...but it isn't preplanned on my part. It's just us being in the same social circle.

Friday she is having a birthday dinner and I've been invited. I'll be going along with 10-12 other people...so it will be hard to isolate her, but at the same time I'll be able to work the room and catch up with other friends.

ADVICE NEEDED - I decided to make her a mix cd for her birthday. It's mostly songs that I like (rock/alternative and hip hop). It's got a flow and is a good driving cd. Anyone think giving it to her is a bad idea (rewarding bad behavior?...or should I say something like I had more fun making this and even though you haven't earned it I already had it made?)

What I've done is taken the Kanye West approach on this. I'm thinking to myself I'm awesome and if she doesn't think so, well then in my eyes she loses value. Because any smart person would know that I'm a good catch. Thinking that way has really put this whole thing into perspective.

Why does this work? Last night after another encounter I ended up going out with some friends. I end up number closing another cute girl at a pizza joint...this type of behavior will definitely build my social proof in the circle.

anyways off to work - let me know what you think.


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Great Post...it really puts things into perspective. And I like the pre-emptive strike as well.

So this girl has totally started to blow me off. We still meet up at the events...but it isn't preplanned on my part. It's just us being in the same social circle.

Friday she is having a birthday dinner and I've been invited. I'll be going along with 10-12 other people...so it will be hard to isolate her, but at the same time I'll be able to work the room and catch up with other friends.

ADVICE NEEDED - I decided to make her a mix cd for her birthday. It's mostly songs that I like (rock/alternative and hip hop). It's got a flow and is a good driving cd. Anyone think giving it to her is a bad idea (rewarding bad behavior?...or should I say something like I had more fun making this and even though you haven't earned it I already had it made?)

What I've done is taken the Kanye West approach on this. I'm thinking to myself I'm awesome and if she doesn't think so, well then in my eyes she loses value. Because any smart person would know that I'm a good catch. Thinking that way has really put this whole thing into perspective.

Why does this work? Last night after another encounter I ended up going out with some friends. I end up number closing another cute girl at a pizza joint...this type of behavior will definitely build my social proof in the circle.

anyways off to work - let me know what you think.


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Look at the facts...

She has already kissed you, this alone shows there must be SOME interest from her side (unless you guys were both horribly drunk or something!).
IMO, you have acted too needy. After that kiss you should have waited a few days, this would have got her wondering. Instead you went straight in for the kill wanting another meeting when you KNEW she was kind of undecided. You put pressure on her and she is backing off. When ever a girl is undecided, freeze them out to get them guessing again and take the pressure off them. Alternatively if you can see she is completely into you, then you can initiate the next meeting sooner. You are really going to have to play cool with this one. She has the upper hand, she and you both know that. If you dont switch that around consider it lost.

I would not give her the mix tape...save this kind of thing for your girl friend. You said it yourself, she has not EARNED your investment in making a mix tape. Plus. a mix tape wont spark any further attraction for you. She may at the MOST think it was a 'nice' gesture.

When youre hanging out in your social circle, dont give her as much attention...she knows you like her, youve made it obvious...now let her hang...and FLIRT WITH OTHER WOMEN IN FRONT OF HER. Not in an obvious way, just show her that other girls are having fun with you and she aint as high and mighty in your life as she thinks she is.

And great to hear you number closed that other gal....do this more often. The more you have on the go at once, the less you will care about this chick. The less you care about her, the less needy and more confident you will come across. As youve heard the cure for oneitis is gaming lots of women and as a result having OPTIONS. Having options is one of the biggest confidence boosters known to man...its why celebrities have so much confidence...its NOT because of their looks/money etc...it is purely because they KNOW they can walk into public and 'get' pretty much anyone they want....a man with value has options, and a man with options has value.


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