Meet up with HB10. Lacking confidence in looks ... ?



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 7:34 pm 
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So, I finally am going to meet in person HB10 ..
I think I'm doing good on the online stuff...
She gave me some IOI's ...
(This are just takes from the huge conversation)
Like... I asked her
ME: "So do you like to go clubbing?"
HB10: Not really, but if you invite me I'll go xD
Me: Well a club isn't the best place to know you, first I'll take you somewhere quiet then we'll see if I can take you to a club ;)

... Later on ...
Me: So do you like animals?
HB10: I guess, only from far away hehe, then I'm scared
Me: oooh, that's a shame, I was going to take you to meet my horses
HB10: Nooo... nooo... scary...
A few minutes later:
Me: So you don't wanna go to the horses?
HB10: I don't know, I might just want to :P

.....
Then we were playing like a points game
I had substracted her 20 points for being soooo talkative (sarcasm) and for lack of creativity..
And she kept insisting that if she had already gotten her points back, and sometime it went like this:

HB10: You're hard to convince
Me: Well, I'm not like anyone you've met...
HB10: Oh, how are you then?
Me: I'm different, unique and special, not to brag a lot. But I can bring fantasy into the world ;) You'll see when you meet me ...

Later in the night she actually gave me her phone number. I sent her a text, asking her a joke question, then she asked me on MSN that question...

She's already agreed to go out with me. At this point, what I think is that she is thinking "Well, this guy isn't kissing my ass like most guys" or something around there.

I also told her how she looked a little bit angry and "stuck-up" on her pictures and she said... "To honest, thanks for the honesty I actually appreciate it, I didn't knew that's how I looked (which is contrary to what every guy tells her about how she looks so good)

Ok... here's the thing...
I am a little lacking confidence in my looks... I know she's already agreed to go out with me and stuff. But I mean, she's a damn 10... and most I've ever gotten is an 8...
I need some routines to build a max attraction on her, when we meet. I was watching "The Pickup Artist" and just seeing the fat guy with so much confidence in a Speedo.. I was like "Damn, I want that"... even though I'm not like him... I get looks on the street... I get said I'm handsome .. but there is something when I look in the mirror, I don't like ...

What can I do to:
1) Build a maximum attraction on the meet up ...?
2) Get more confident on the way I look ...?

Thanks a lot for your help guys. I appreciate it.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 8:50 pm 
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Looks matter far less than you think. Women are more interested in if you're well groomed rather than if you have a six-pack under your shirt.

Smell good, shave (or trim), cut nose hairs, wear a clean shirt, etc.



With women, initial attraction is more like 10% looks, 60% personality, 30% social proof.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 2:47 am 
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looks matter way less than you think.
The only foreseeable problem is congruency, let me explain. Online you have been acting C&F, which is a good thing, but is much easier to do online than in person. When you meet her, you need to be that same C&F guy, that doesn't give a shit about her approval because you already get tons of love from tons of other women. It's all about congruency if you don't already have that.

PS this thread is more applicable to the day 2 forum, you should also go there and read up on what to do at the meetup.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 4:04 am 
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Hell...
I know that women don't care much about looks as we guys do.
But there is something about my physique that doesn't allow me to be myself!
Im sooo fked up here. And I don't want to feel like this, I don't want to...
I don't know what to do.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 4:43 am 
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hey dude.. u need to work on your inner game. Just treat her like any other girl and im sure u will attract her


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If she's seen photos of you and has agreed to meet then she already screened you looks wise so everything is there to play for. I guess that is stating the obvious but you need to keep this in mind. What I find works for me is to imagine that she is as attracted to me as I am to her, an just as excited about meeting.

Thing you've got to remember is that a HB10 isn't going to waste time meeting up with guys she doesn't like the look of. Your dilemma so reminds me of me about a year ago and even to this day I don't really like my own reflection BUT I've learned to accept that hot women can fancy me 8) and in fact right now I'm dating a successful and very picky HB9 more than 20 years younger than me

Just game "as usual" when you meet - in particular try to avoid falling into interview question mode which is big temptation when meeting someone you've been chatting to already online since your starting out with a kind of artificially high comfort level. You need to quickly establish your frame as not just another guy asking the same old questions. If she moves the conversation onto mundane stuff like jobs or whatever then immediately steer it towards the motivation/emotion/feeling aspects and away from the factual/observational.

If you feel like your losing your frame and reverting to AFC then an impulsive change of venue works well, will give you chance to collect your thoughts and re-establish your frame and of course there the time compression effect.

Of course I assume you know the golden rule of gaming a 9/10 and that is to avoid physical compliments no matter how tempted you might feel.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:18 am 
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Well.
It turns out HB10 was more insecure than I thought. She said to me that she didn't thought she was pretty and that she doesn't have a good body. So... while her body is still a 10. Her mind is not a 10 .. its more like a 5 or 6 ...
I think I should throw some playful compliments...


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