Alright, so im talking to this girl, didnt really mean to, she came to me. But anyway, im doing everything, tease her, qualfying her, then she ask what I doing in college. Basically a friend of mine bought the layguide and asked me to read it to see if the stuff worked, good book, mostly basics with some other stuff thrown in, but I neve did speed seduction which it talked about so I figured Id give it a try, so heres the conversation:

HB: what are you studying
Me: Im going to be a pilot
HB: what, like an american airline pilot
Me: ha ha, no, a fighter pilot, trying to be like iceman
HB: why would you wanna do that?
Me: Have you ever ridden in one
HB: well no, have you?
Me: yeah and you wouldnt believe what its like
HB: so whats it like
(Speed Seduction)
Me: Well, the first thing you see when you walk out to the ramp is this fighter jet and you get this excitement that rushes through your body and your heart just starts pounding in your chest. (at this point she starts to smile) Then you get in and hook everything in and put fasten all these seat belts and you just get more excited and your heart beats faster thats your just ready to go and ride this thing and before you even take-off you know your gonna ride over and over. (at this point her mouth opens with this little smirk on her face, you can tell shes really into it) And right when you take off you feel this arousal of energy and this amazing feeling that you only feel when your inside of this jet,you know(and of course she nods). And you start going faster and faster and fliping over and doing loops and you feel scarred because you know its dangerous but you realize your safe because nothing horrible is happening, so you just sit back and enjoy the ride and you have this amazing feeling that you only feel when you ride something like that and when your done, no matter what, all you can think about is riding it again. (at this point she is closer to me and smiling ear to ear and Im seeing alot of IOI). Think about doing that everyday. Honestly its like sex. No matter what its good
HB: ha ha ha ha, well i definitley have to try that.

The night ended well. It wasnt as long as it seems and I not a big fan of speed seduction but it did work. I think it has alot to do with how you play it off though too. What do you guys think

I actually like it a lot - I had a thing that was different but similar in idea. It's basically that you get the woman to visualize having sex with you. So you start talking about her parents and what would they do if they walked in on (with a goofy smirk on your face) you and her having sex (and go into details blah blah blah).

I'm not a fan of speed seduction in and of itself because that I feel is truly manipulation, but I'm not against Social Dynamics with a little speed seduction thrown in to amp sexual tension.

Good post man.

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You're not gonna be having any less sex with her if you don't talk to her.

Maybe because I am a master NLP practioner and a hypnotist, I love using Speed Seduction based material in comfort and seduction phase. I believe that is when the target is most receptive to be "directed" into emotional states like sexual arousal and excitement...

Yet, much of SS stuff is outdated in my point of view because as Ross has said in his later videos there are quicker ways to get to what you are after without having to run patterns on the target. I totally agree with that point of view..

Personally, I like using standard sarging material in the context of SS. Which brings me to the fighter pilot post above..

Anyone familiar with SS stuff will recall "Discovery Channel" pattern which talks about amusement rides and emotional states. Great pattern from early SS work. Fighter pilot stuff is good too but is in the same frame..

Can I suggest using things more efficiently... ?

Here is what I do.. For that I ask two questions..

One. What is my goal ? Is it arousal or curiosity or high emotional charge..

Two... Where would I lead from there...

So where would you like to take the conversation from the fighter pilot pattern... ?

I have a mental picture of a puzzle in sarging, each piece must be there to complete the picture.. That is attraction, comfort, trust, arousal, sexual tension.. etc...

Thus when I sarge I like offering a complete package.. That means when I talk about something it fits right into the structure of all the other stuff I am going to talk about.

For example, instead of opening with who lies more and then going to do you believe in ESP or some other standard stuff most people use which are different treads all opening up..

I use a completely integrated structure where I transition from one part to the next seemlessly.

So getting back to the pattern above.. Instead of running a pattern for 8 - 12 minutes.. Can you do it more efficiently ? Yes

What if you have not got other material upto par ? Yes, by all means use it..

For efficiency I recommend using Ross' later material like EV work...

I don't want to make this post long so I stop here..

Happy Sarging..

Brother Mois

if anyone has seen derren brown on tv he does the exact same thing, except he gets some dude feel like he's drunk :S dunno if derren brown is for real though, but he uses the same techniques.
it can be hard work but all u have to do is come up with a story that will give the listener a mental image of something that would make her aroused.
this story had a lot of the word "ride" in it, which will make her think about riding ur penis