So heres the deal. I'm not new to the game but I'm definitely new to the bar scene. So far all the bars/clubs I've gone to play the music too loud and have other things that seem to distract me and my target, mostly me. I guess my question is all are bars loud and flashy? If they are then how do I adjust my openers and routines so I'm not yelling at the set or rather in the sets ear as it seems.

wow man i just came from a club and i opened to the hottest girl on the club and because of the noise she couldn't hear my opener and i repeated myself 3 times and she waited for me to tell her but she just couldnt hear because of the noise im so frustrated you hve to open on th quiet places of the bar or club

Get some cards and prints stuff on them like "this bar is soo loud" then switch it with "is it always like this"

Why dont you lean in and whisper in her ear after showing the cards.

When the bars are to loud, this is when your body language comes into play. You have to make them see that your an interesting person, by being very social so that when you do approach you can sometimes just signal that you want to dance, and because they have seen the way you where carring your self throughout the night there more reluctant to open up and dance with you based on there perception of your personality.

Interesting = attraction

and woman make up there mind in the first 3 secounds weather they like you or not, so its all about the first impression hopes this helps.

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I guess it all comes from the fact that i started sarging before i was 21 so now that i am 21 and can go to bars its harder to find a quiet place to open

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I find dancing works well. If you can't dance awesomely, try dancing ironically. I find I always get opened on by chicks (weird, I know!!) if I dance ironically bad, like doing the robot and running man or other cheesy dance moves. The key is to do it with a silly grin, like you know it's bad but you're just having a laugh. Being self-conscious will make you fail. Oddly enough, the dancefloor is one of the only places i'm comfortable making an absolute tool of myself, along with on a stage and in front of a camera.